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Diminutives of Elizabeth
« on: Sunday 07 November 04 00:16 GMT (UK) »
I have a family on a census where the mother is named as "Betsey".  A birth certificate which might be the right one gives the mother as "Elizabeth".  I know that Betsy was a name in its own right, but could it also be a diminutive of Elizabeth?
Godden in East Sussex, mainly Hastings area.
Richards in Lea, Gloucestershire, then London.
Williamson in Leith, Vickers in Nottingham.
Webb in Bildeston and Colchester.
Wesbroom in Kirby le Soken.
Ellington in Harwich.
Park, Palmer, Segar and Peartree in Kersey.

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Re: Diminutives of Elizabeth
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 07 November 04 00:43 GMT (UK) »
Yes. Also Lisbet, Betty, Betsy, Liza, Bessie , Bess, Beth, Eliza, Liz, Lizzie, and lots of others but not Uncle Tom Cobley.
Elizabeth and Mary were so prevalent that every family had several amongst the cousins - that is why all the variants were used.
Southern or Southan [Hereford , Monmouthshire & Glos], Jenkins, Meredith and Morgan [Monmouthshire and Glos.], Murrill, Damary, Damry, Ray, Lawrence [all Middx. & London], Nethway from Kenn or Yatton. Also Riley and Lyons in South Africa and Riley from St. Helena.
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Re: Diminutives of Elizabeth
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 07 November 04 13:23 GMT (UK) »
I recently found 2 children from the same family with the same name ::) One was called Elizabeth and the other was called Eliza.............I thought it wasn't possible at first but it proved to be true.  I've also got another one named Maria, but called herself Mary.

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Re: Diminutives of Elizabeth
« Reply #3 on: Monday 08 November 04 12:04 GMT (UK) »
I've seen innumerable examples of 2 children in the same family with the same name. Generally the elder had died before the younger was born, but this may not always be the case. George Foreman the boxer, had four sons all name George. Perhaps all those punches did something to his brain? With hindsight, everytime I find myself calling one of my children by the name of one of their siblingsI wish I'd not given them different names.

On the naming front, I have found an ancestor baptised Nellie who called herself Nancy. Now that's just pretentiousness and there's nowt so queer as folk as they say in her native Yorkshire.
E Yorks - Carver, Steels, Cross, Maltby, Whiting, Moor, Laybourn
W Yorks - Wilkinson, Kershaw, Rawnsley, Shaw
Norfolk - Carver, Dowson
Cheshire - Berry, Cooper
Lincs - Berry
London/Ireland/Scotland/Lincs - Sullivan
Northumberland/Durham - Nicholson, Cuthbert, Turner, Robertson
Berks - May
Beds - Brownell


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Re: Diminutives of Elizabeth
« Reply #4 on: Monday 08 November 04 12:54 GMT (UK) »
And I've got an example of Maria Mercedes who also called herself Mary Mercy.

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Re: Diminutives of Elizabeth
« Reply #5 on: Monday 08 November 04 12:56 GMT (UK) »
And who can blame her?
Godden in East Sussex, mainly Hastings area.
Richards in Lea, Gloucestershire, then London.
Williamson in Leith, Vickers in Nottingham.
Webb in Bildeston and Colchester.
Wesbroom in Kirby le Soken.
Ellington in Harwich.
Park, Palmer, Segar and Peartree in Kersey.

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Re: Diminutives of Elizabeth
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 18 November 04 23:37 GMT (UK) »
I found an ancestor who was named Esubia after her grandmother but by the time she was age 14 (and forever after) she was going by Elsie.  With a name like Esubia who could blame her, but it does make for some confusion when looking for her in records.  If I had't found her w/parents at age 14 I never would have known who to look for in later records.  Now I look for Elsie not Esubia.
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Re: Diminutives of Elizabeth
« Reply #7 on: Friday 19 November 04 18:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi can I add mine?  My husbands gran was Eliza but known as Lilie (even put it on her husbands headstone!)

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Re: Diminutives of Elizabeth
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 21 November 04 05:55 GMT (UK) »
I have a friend now whose dau. is named Elizabeth but Everyone calls her Lilly to the point the child doesn't even Know her name is Elizabeth.      Leagen
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