1871 - Oldham - MURGATROYD

[WG]

Could someone please find David MURGATROYD in the 1871 census? (and 1861 and 1851 if you have access to them). David married Betty HALKYARD 20 Feb 1865 at Christ Church, Glodwick, Oldham. In the 1871 census, they should have 3 children; William (b. 10 Jul 1865), Jane (b. 14 May 1868), and  John (b. 14 Apr 1870). All were born in Oldham according to the 1881 and 1891 census, however the IGI says they were christened at St Chad's, Rochdale. Their address in 1881 was "8 Ct 5 Greenacres Old Rd, Oldham". David's father was also named David and his occupation was "Weaver" on David & Betty's marriage certificate, 20 Feb 1865.

Thanks.

[AussieGenealogy]

1861

RG9/3022  Folio 97  Page 22  Oldham


David Murgatroyd    16       Manchester  Son Labourer@Snow Works
David Murgatroyd    49       Hovenden    Head Labourer@Snow works
Jane Murgatroyd      48       Rochdale      Wife
Joseph Murgatroyd  19       Manchester  Son   Factory Operative
Ellen Murgatroyd       12       Oldham       Dau   Factory Operative
James Murgatroyd      8        Salford        Son  Factory Operative

Lees Road

[AussieGenealogy]

1871

david Murgatroyd      59  Hendon       head      Cotton Weaver
Jane Murgatroyd       60  Rochdale     Wife          #          #
Joseph Murgatroyd   29  Manchester Son          Engine?? Cotton mill
Sarah Murgatroyd     27  Oldham      dau in Law Cotton Piecer
Ellen Murgatroyd       20    #              Dau              #          #
James Murgatroyd     18  Salford       Son            ?  ?  Tinter
Thomas Murgatroyd    6  Oldham        #              Scholar
Alice A.Murgatroyd      4     #              Dau             
Samuel Murgatroyd    2      #             Son
Elizabeth Murgatroyd 8mth #            Dau

14 Ash Street

RG10/4103  Folio 139  Page  28 Oldham

[AussieGenealogy]

Hi WG

I've not had any luck locating David Jnr in 1871, hopefully another pair of eyes will find them for you.
Annie

[WG]

Thanks very much Annie. That's a big help.

 - WG

[LancsLass]

HI WG...If you go to UKBMD..Oldham is now putting online for Baptisms the maiden name of the mother....

The last 4 Murgatroyd children on the 1871 census do not seem to be David andJane's children..they are in fact the children of their eldest son Joseph who married Sarah Chadwick at St.Mathews,Chadderton in 1863...
It also gives a full list of Murgatroyd children with the mothers name of Halkyard....
Have the 1851 name index for Oldham but can not find any Murgatroyds.....wonder if they had moved up the road a bit to the Lee's area....some of that is on the Yorkshire census (Saddleworth)...
If you have no luck......i could have a look for you on Saturday (am off to the local archives then)
Regards..
LancsLass.

[WG]

Thanks LancsLass. That's a good tip about UKBMD and maiden names.

I looked up Joseph in the 1881 census and found him with his wife Sarah and their children; Thomas, Alice, Samuel, James and Robert. No sign of Elizabeth though. And there's no Elizabeth Murgatroyd, born 1870, at UKBMD with mother's maiden name CHADWICK. There's an Elizabeth Ann Murgatroyd born 1870 but the mother's maiden name is shown as MURGATROYD. I wonder if that's a mistake?

Re 1851: I found them in the Ancestry.com index as "Margatede". Unfortunately, I don't have a subscription so I can't get the details. All I can get is:

   Civil Parish: Oldham

   Name                 Birth Year  Relation
                                                           
   David Margatede       abt 1811   Head   
   Jane Margatede        abt 1813   Wife   
   Elizabeth Margatede   abt 1833   Daughter
   Harriet Margatede     abt 1836   Daughter
   Joseph Margatede      abt 1841   Son     
   David Margatede       abt 1845   Son     
   Thomas Margatede      abt 1848   Son     
   Mary Ellen Margatede  abt 1850   Daughter


If someone can post the details, I'd appreciate it very much.

 - WG

[SheilaM]

Here they are WG

HO107/224 Folio 183 Page 50
Moorhey Row, Clarksfield

David Margatide 40, Cotton Weaver, b Halifax
Jane 38, Cotton Weaver, b Rochdale
Elizabeth 18, Cotton Piecer, b Rochdale
Harriet 15, Cotton Piecer, b Heywood
Joseph 10, b Manchester
David 6, b Manchester
Thomas 3, b Manchester
Mary Ellen 4 months, b Oldham
Joseph Chapman 26, lodger, Cotton Beamer, b Kingsowen Wilts
Celia 22, lodger, Cotton Weaver, b Halesowen Glos.

Regards ... Sheila

[WG]

Thanks Sheila.  I assume the lodger Celia is also a Chapman - is that right?

 - WG