Mystery Hotel 1912 ????????

[J.J.]

How now, Paul E? 

Oh, nevermind... I am still on "It's a B not an  R" mode...so who am I to talk?
I have a feeling the poor old thing got demolished and we're looking for straws...
but having fun! J.J.

[liverpool annie]

Boy Paul !

I can't drink and run like you ! .............. didn't find what I wanted but quite enjoyed that !! ..... there's some really cool pubs in Sheffield !

I can't remember which one I thought was a possible ...... better go for another round !! 

I think you're right JJ ...... about it being demolished ..... but shouldn't there still be some memories at least !

Prince of Wales in Southport looks quite nice !! 

PS No ! I don't think it was the Brown Cow !! ...... the address isn't big enough !! 

[J.J.]

Just had my hubby here and he went kookoo as well trying to figure out if anything was prominant enough to pinpoint anything...both of us want to know what kind of program has the "hotel" lettering enhancement" on it, Paul! ...If the crown and CR were put there for the Royal visit in '05, they likely wouldn't be on it anymore, but the architechture wouldn't be changed that much to modernize it, would it?

I really want to win a lottery and just fly about to check for myself where this hotel may be... I'd meet you all at a sheffield pub....better check my tickets!
  J.J.

[J.J.]

Could it be on a Charles Street?...reaching at that straw...

Has anyone checked the directories for hotel names in that era? J.J.

[dennford]

Memories, oh memories!
      Been in a lot of those in my mispent whatsit.

                                                       Denn

[Ninatoo]

What IS that round thing hanging off the wrought iron (above the door about half way up)...the place where I would have thought a sign should be?

Nina

[Paul E]

Hi JJ

I've enlarged the lettering and put them next to each other.   I'm pretty sure the second letter is an 'R' - if you look, you can see that it is stood, like the first letter, on a ledge.
As for the first letter, at first thinking it was a 'C', I'm now wondering whether it mightn't be a 'G' ... 

(My first guess at 'Hotel' above the door was based on the 'un-enhanced' picture, but knightstemplar's enhanced picture cracked it for me!)

Ninatoo - I can't see a round thing hanging from the bracket - but I can see what may be a flag, that has been blurred by the slow shutter speed of the camera...

cheers

Paul

[julianb]

I'v been lurking on this thread, but have not had anything to add to date.

Paul's former Brown Cow pub is in the Wicker, Sheffield.  Any earlier Royal Victoria Hotel also might have been in the Wicker (according to previous posts).  The Wicker is one of the few significant roads in Sheffield on the flat (Sheffield is like Rome - seven hills - but I'm not aware of blood flowing in the River Don!).

The Wicker is now a mix of old and new. I assume its proximity to the Lower Don Valley (where the steel works were, and in some cases still are) would have meant quite a bit of associated bomb damage in WW2.  So this building may well not be there any more (if it was to start with).

JULIAN

[Paul E]

That's useful, Julian.

My initial thoughts about this being a railway hotel still hold for me, and Googling threw up references to an old station of the Central Railway which was in the Wicker.

I wonder if we are starting to narrow this down?

Has anyone got access to old Sheffield street maps that might show this area?

cheers

Paul