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Re: Mystery Hotel 1912 ????????
« Reply #117 on: Sunday 25 February 07 17:10 GMT (UK) »
Here's a link to back up the G & R theory. Also around the right time for a Royal celebration. 1911.

http://pinetreeweb.com/bp-kgv-coronation.htm

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Re: Mystery Hotel 1912 ????????
« Reply #118 on: Sunday 25 February 07 17:39 GMT (UK) »
Yes, Annie...the royal visit was in 1905, and they called it the visit of the "King and Queen!"  Here they also show from the 1905 parade photos that the parade street was "the wicker"!
http://www.hedgerow.co.uk/images.php?class=nostalgic&cat=spc&pictureRef=spc273%3E
http://www.hedgerow.co.uk/images.php?class=nostalgic&cat=spc&pictureRef=spc271%3Ehttp://www.hedgerow.co.uk/images.php?
class=nostalgic&cat=spc&pictureRef=spc269%3E

You can see similar architechture but not as elaborate...
http://www.hedgerow.co.uk/images.php?class=nostalgic&cat=spc&pictureRef=spc270%3E
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« Reply #119 on: Sunday 25 February 07 17:42 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps we aren't looking at the main street side of the building, but the side that faced the station, so we aren't finding the same view in the street photos? To solve this one, I think we'll likely need some older eyes and memories...

and yes, Paul, I think you have convinced me it's an "R"  ;D  J.J.
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« Reply #120 on: Sunday 25 February 07 17:48 GMT (UK) »
Here's the only hotel that I can find that was completelt destroyed in ww2 Sheffield...The Marples Hotel...I found lots of pics of it destroyed, but only this of it standing...( 7 stories )
http://www.chrishobbs.com/marples1940.htm
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Re: Mystery Hotel 1912 ????????
« Reply #121 on: Sunday 25 February 07 20:09 GMT (UK) »
Crikey, you lot have been busy!!  :o ;D

Now, regarding the date, if you cast your mind back, I had a stab at this:

Clothes are perfect for 1911/1912.  I would say it's GRV's coronation.

I stick by that date.  Don't think it's any earlier - deffo not 1905 anyway.

As for the hanging plaque thing, I had a fiddle in Photoshop to try to show it up better.  I think it's one solid plaque with a central design, rather than two separate bits.  The lighter bit in the middle has the correct perspective to be part of the plaque, rather than the wall behind.

Can't actually help with anything practical yet, but will keep my eye on this thread!  ;D

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Re: Mystery Hotel 1912 ????????
« Reply #122 on: Sunday 25 February 07 21:38 GMT (UK) »
Having looked at many pics of the Victoria Hotel including this one that shows the whole front and roofline I would certainly rule that one out.

But presuming that it is Sheffield. What about the other railway station in Sheffield (was it the midland line?), was there a hotel of theses proportions there?


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« Reply #123 on: Sunday 25 February 07 22:49 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, Prue, we weren't trying to redate the photo, but were wondering if that's when some of the decor went up...We agreed the clothes were in that era ;D...good job in photoshop, as I see the wrought iron jutting out clearly now...My eyes are getting shot I think!  :D  J.J.

p.s. There was a mention of the Wicker having an older station hotel...thus the parade shots....
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Re: Mystery Hotel 1912 ????????
« Reply #124 on: Sunday 25 February 07 22:53 GMT (UK) »
It looks like they had electricity, going by the light bulbs around the window above the B or R and on the crown, also on the 2 large letters.
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« Reply #125 on: Sunday 25 February 07 23:11 GMT (UK) »
There was electric in the hotel but have you noticed there are no outside lights or tram lines/cables.  This has puzzled me for a bit.

I think we can rule out the Royal Victoria Hotel theory out as the one on the old pictures is the one still there and it is in such a position that a hotel of that size would not fit on the area left.

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