Cambusnethan Cemetery Grave Search - Part 1

[sage]

Hi Lodger,

I know you don't mean to exclude me but I'm starting to get a complex 
I wonder if you could please have a look at my message dated Sep 29 re the Sleith family.

Cheers,
Heather.

[LizzieAS]

Hi Lodger,

Sorry, senior moment yes its Alexander. I imagine my Catherine Inglis is not related to the Murdostoun Estate family!

I think I will have to call into the Lanarkshire FHS when I'm next in the area and perhaps have a look around Kirk O'Shotts. Thanks for your help.

Also thanks to Skoosh - I think Shotts FHS have amalgamated with Lanarkshire FHS now.

Lizzie

[Skoosh]

Folks,  there's another good site, the Salsburgh Heritage, or Family History Society.     Skoosh.

[raybar]

Hi Lodger –   I’ve noted the fantastic services you’ve done for people and hope that you might be able to help me.

Three generations of Barrie/Barry families raised their children at Bogside, C’nethan, 1690 – 1790s.
John Barrie & Margaret Hamilton had William 1691, Marion 1693, John 1695,
John 1698, Alexr 1701.
Eldest son William & Mary Baillie had John 1733, Jean 1738, Alexr 1741,
William 1743, Mary 1747.
Their eldest son John & Christian Russel had Janet 1761, Mary 1763,
William 1765, Robert 1767, Christian 1769, John 1772.

Mortcloth dues were paid for William’s Alexr 18 Feb 1750,
 & for wife Mary Baillie 7 Jan 1782.
William was a Kirk Elder 1739-1766 & administered funds for the poor,
at least thru 9 Aug 1767.
His dau Mary married an Andrew Story 1774.

John & Christian’s Mary married a John Brownlie 1790;
Robert appears to have married an Isobel Hamilton 1814;
Dau Christian married a William Nisbet 1794, moving to Lanark;
& son John married Mary Forrest, raising his family at Blackhall.

Any info you may have about them, or about Bogside in that period, will be greatly appreciated.
And any suggestions for further research also, although I’ll never be able to get back to Scotland again so it would have to be by remote access.

Raybar

[Lodger]

Hi Raybar,

I can't tell you much I'm afraid, I checked the monumental inscriptions but drew a blank there.
The burial records for the old churchyard only begin in the 3rd quarter of the 19th century so, again, very little could be found. What I have found will be up to you to decide if they belong to the same family of Barries or not.
There are 2 family plots, adjoining, in the old churchyard, owned by Barries. One was owned by Janet Barrie and has no entries in the burial register. This probably means that any internments were made before records began.
The adjoining plot was owned by William Barrie. There are 3 internments but there would probably have been others made pre-1875. The 3 are -

ROBERT BARRIE. Aged 60 years. Interred 20th September 1881.
WILLIAM BARRIE. Aged 67 years. Interred 24th August 1886.
ALEXANDER BARRIE. Aged 83 years. Interred 13th February 1908.
Unfortunately, the 19th century Day Book, if such a thing even existed, for the churchyard has not survived. Fortunately, the Day Book entries after October 1906 are included in the book for the new cemetery. So, the following entry is from the Day Book, which gives a little more information.

ALEXANDER BARRIE. Engineman, Carluke, aged 83 years, single.
Parents - John Barrie and Christian Russell.
Interred in old churchyard, 13th February 1908.

The following are all extracts from the book of paupers burials.

JAMES BARRIE. Carter, Carluke, aged 46 years, single.
Parents - Robert Barrie and Isabella Hamilton.
Interred in old churchyard, 6th February 1863.

JOHN BARRIE. Farmer, Bushelhead, Carluke, aged 54 years, married.
Parents - Robert Barrie and Belle Hamilton.
Interred in old churchyard, 2nd November 1869.

MARY BARRIE. Housewife, Headlesscross, aged 100 years, widow.
Parents - William Forrest and Margaret Barrie.
Interred in old churchyard, 28th June 1867.

Could the last entry be the wife of John Barrie born 1772? I would question the 100 years part, she was probably just in her eighties.  Although the last 3 were given paupers burials they may very well have been interred in family plots.

I don't have any info on Bogside, it's a tiny hamlet now, just a few houses and farms and I expect it was the same back then. It is only about 3 - 5 minutes drive from Carluke.

Lastly, you mention that Mary Barrie married John Brownlie in 1790. could it have been Christian or Christina Barrie?

Hope this is of some use,

Lodger.

[raybar]

Thank you Lodger -  I really appreciate your time & effort.

All 5 men are sons of Robert Barrie & Isobel Hamilton.  Obviously the parentage of Alexr in the one entry is wrong. He was born 6 May 1824; John B. & Christian Russel in 1733.  All except Robert were born in C'nethan; Robert in Carluke.
The location & fact of marriage in John's interment record led me to find that an Extract Registered Trust Disposition and Deed of Settlement & Inventory had been recorded at the Glasgow Sheriff Court 19 Jan 1870; also that his wife was Agnes Lang.  They were married 20 Dec 1861 & had 3 sons, Robert Russell Barrie, b. 3 Mar 1862; Gavin Lang Barrie, b. 12 Jan 1864; & John Barrie, b. 5 Jan 1866.
Googling "Gavin L. Barrie", I found a photo of an inscribed monument in the  Kirkton of Lochalsh graveyard showing that a Gavin L. Barrie d. 27 Nov 1935 @ 71Y (=1864), his wife Christina Finlayson d. 9 Jun 1932 @ 68Y, their son Robert R. Barrie d. 19 Apr 1970 @ 71Y & his wife Katherine Fletcher d. 29 October 1979 @ 88Y.  They were married 1897 & 1935, respectively.  Don't know where yet.
Sounds related ??    Mary Barrie at Headlesscross - b. 4 Jun 1768 @ Carluke,
she was 99.         Thanks again.    --Raybar

[raybar]

Lodger - Ran out of space.

It was Mary, d/o John Barrie & Christian Russel that married John Brownlie:
"1790  Augt 25th  This day John Brownlie in this parish [Carluke] and Mary Barry in the parish of Cambusnethan gave in their names for proclamation in order to marriage"
"[1790] Augt 27  John Brownlee in Carluke parish & Mary Barry in this parish [Cambusnethan]."
This was verified by Australian descendant Ian Edward Brownlee of N.S.W.

Older postings mentioned a 'compact disc of all burials in Cambusnethan graveyard from the 1600s up to 1993 with some gaps' at Motherwell Heritage Centre.  Do you know of anyone doing look-ups there ?                    -- Raybar

[Fern68]

Hello Lodger. You are doing so much to help others I too am wondering if you can help me out with the info on the Cambusnethan disc.
My g/g/ granparents. Agnes, nee Logan & Alexander Stewart also lived in Cambusnethan. They were born around 1840.
Is it at all possible for you to check and see if there is any record of their deaths ?. I have drawn a blank with this side of the family.

Thanking you in advance.

[Lodger]

Hi Fern68,
Sorry, no sign of them or any of their children in C/nethan.

good luck,
Lodger