Cambusnethan Cemetery Grave Search - Part 1

[Lodger]

Hi Max,

There is a monumental inscription in the old Dalziel burying ground (The Old Manse cemetery as it's sometimes called - or St Patrick's as it's wrongly called).

"1850  John Prentice died 23rd March 1890 aged 67 years, Agnes Courtney his wife died 31st January 1894 aged 72 years".
The burial records are almost non-existant, the sextons (gravediggers) for most of the 19th century were from the same family (James Prentice and son) and they kept all the information in their heads.
The only internment shown for this plot is -
JOHN PRENTICE, aged 66 years, interred 5th April 1921.

Out of the 202 plots, 12 of the owners were named Prentice, a high proportion. Other names linked with them are - Smellie, Forbes, McGregor, Suttie, Torrance, Wood, Horn, Muir, Lohor, Blackwood, McKay, Harvie and Paterson.

Lodger.

[vossen]

Lodger- you refer to some Smellie families related to Prentices in the Dalziell graveyard. Can you get me some information on them.Want to see if they link to my Cambusnethan Smellies... Thanks.

[vossen]

I was excited to see mention  of the Brownlee name in the Cambusnethan cemetery. We have dead -ended with a J anet Brounlie who was born ABT 1720 in Cornsillock, Dalserf, Lanarkshire, Scotland.  Janet married James Frame of the Consillock Frames who eventually married with the Nicol and Smillie (Smellei) family of Cambusnethan.

Is there any link to the other Brownlees mentionned?

[Lodger]

Hi Vossen,

Smellie/Smillie is a VERY popular name in the Clyde valley, and Brownlie/lee is the most popular name in Cambusnethan churchyard!
The MIs for Dalziel churchyard list Janet Smellie who died 16th June 1886 aged 69 years, as the wife of Hugh Prentice.

In the Cambusnethan records there is a James Frame who died in Glasgow December 1874, parents were James Frame and Catherine Smellie. Is he one of yours?

To do look-ups I really need specific names.
Brownlie is, as I have already said, a very popular name. If you know where Cornsilloch Brae is, cross the Garrion bridge at the bottom, go over onto the start of Horsley Brae and about a quarter of a mile up,  the little road off to the right takes you into an area called Brownlie.
Cornsilloch is still being farmed, not by Frames though. The name Fram/Frame is prevailant in Dalserf parish but very few in Cambusnethan, vice-versa with the Brownlie name.


Lodger

[vossen]

Am looking for graves or death certificate information on the following family members:


1. William Laurie (Wullie)   b. January 21, 1899    d. Nov. 16, 1990 Cambusnethan Cemetar
2. Peter Laurie       b. April 6, 1900 Motherwell, Lanark d. Aug. 9, 1955 Motherwell

4.  Margaret Nicol Laurie (Maggie) McGrath b. May 20, 1903 Craigneuk, Dalziel   d.       
5. Agnes Kennedy Laurie    b. October 26, 1904  Craigneuk, Dalziel   d.  November 23, 1974
7. Thomas Laurie        b. c. 1908, Lanark, Dalziel         d.       
8.  Alexander Laurie (Alex)     b. c. 1909 Lanark, Dalziel          d.
9.  John Laurie (twin)            b. May 10, 1911                                   d. Sept. 14, 1911 Wishaw     
11.  John Laurie       b. c. 1913                                                 d. July 26, 1975, Coventry?
12. Elizabeth Laurie (Lizzie)   b. c. 1914-1916            d.
13. Jean Laurie      b. c. 1917 or 1918          d. Bombing WWII-1939-45
14. Robert Laurie      b. 1920?                  d   
15. Jessie Laurie (Carr)    b. 1922 or 23               d

[vossen]

Do you have the death registrations for James LITTLE, Coalminer and Helen THOMSON.
They were originally from Sanquhar in Dumfries but may have moved to Cambusnethan  for the coal mining. Also their daughter

 Isabella LITTLE and spouse William NICOL

[Lodger]

Vossen, I gave you everything I have back in April, see this and the next 2 entries.
Lodger

Vossen,

You don't ask for much!

I'll answer in 2 messages. This one deals with the old churchyard of Cambusnethan at Greenhead Road. The "new" cemetery adjoins the churchyard and will be dealt with in my next reply.

But, first of all.  In the 1851 census, Jean Nicol aged 21 years is born in Dalserf, not Dalziel.

There is a gravestone inscription in the old churchyard that reads -
"William Nicol died 7th June 1869 aged 66 years. His wife Isabella Little died 1st January 1857 aged 57 years. Their son Hugh died 16th September 1855 aged 24 years. Their son William died in infancy. Their son John died 16th February 1892 aged 64 years. (His wife Margaret Moffat died 22nd January 1899 aged 66 years)."

There are some burial records for the churchyard but they only begin in the mid-1870s. Here's what there is for the above plot. (All dates are of internment)
Owner is named as William Nicol.
In the south lair -
JANE NICOL, aged 2 years. 9th June 1885.
WILLIAM NICOL, aged 4 weeks. 19th December 1905.
In the centre lair -
JOHN NICOL, aged 65 years. 18th February 1892.
MARGARET NICOL, aged 65 years. 25th January 1899.

There is another Nicol family plot in the old churchyard, unfortunately no headstone has survived. Here are the records for that plot.

Owners are James Nicol and Jane Frame.
In the south lair -
UNKNOWN NICOL, no age given. 17th November 1883.
JAMES NICOL, aged 21 years. 25th July 1884.
UNKNOWN SMELLIE, no age. 26th December 1888.
ISABELLA STARK, no age. 20th October 1931.
in the centre lair -
JAMES NICOL, aged 54 years. 17th June 1879.
JANE NICOL, aged 76 years. 14th November 1904.
In the north lair -
MARGARET SMELLIE, aged 47 years. 16th March 1900.
PETER SMELLIE, aged 51 years. 8th October 1901.

The "unknowns" may well be still births or infants. It would be worthwhile checking out the 1855 death, there will be extra information on it.

[Lodger]

Vossen - continued.

There is also an old walled part of the cemetery that pre-dates the municipal cemetery. It is situated next to the churchyard and the first burials were I think, about 1860 or so.
There are 2 burials there for your family (there may be others, the records are not complete). Again, all dates are of internment.

HANNAH BURT. Newmains, aged 3 years.
Parents - Andrew Burt and Isabella Nicol.
Plot 438. 2nd September 1881. (There are others in this grave, all by the name of McNeil).

ANN SMELLIE. Housewife, Overtown, aged 63 years. Widow.
Parents - John Lynch and Helen  - - - - -
Plot 174. 20th May 1872.


The next list is taken from the paupers burials. In all of the cases here, they will have been buried in their family plots at the expense of the parochial board. This particular record suppliments the records for the old churchyards. If the people below were not paupers you may not have been able to find their burials.

MARY LAURIE, Wishaw, aged 7 months.
Parents - William Laurie and Elizabeth Porter.
Old churchyard, 28th March 1864.

JAMES K LAURIE, Wishaw, aged 2 years.
Parents - William J Laurie and Agnes Kennedy.
Old churchyard, 6th June 1876.

GEORGE NICOL, locomotive fireman, Newmains, aged 24 years, married.
Parents - William Nicol and Isabella Little.
Old churchyard, 8th September 1866.

WILLIAM NICOL, coalminer, Waterloo, aged 66 years, widower.
Parents - William Nicol and unknown.
Old churchyard, 9th June 1869.

MARY NICOL, Cambusnethan, aged 12 months.
Parents John Nicol and Margaret Moffat.
Old churchyard, 23rd February 1870.

HUGH NICOL, drawer, (in coal mine) Cambusnethan, aged 13 years.
Parents as above.
Old churchyard, 11th June 1873.

MARGARET NICOL, Cambusnethan, aged 11 months.
Parents as above.
Old churchyard, 5th March 1874.

HANNAH NICOL, Cambusnethan, aged 19 months.
Parents as above.
Old churchyard, 26th October 1876.

JOHN NICOL, Cambusnethan, aged 6 years.
Parents as above.
Old churchyard, 31st October 1877.

JANE NICOL, Cambusnethan, aged 9 years.
Parents - James Nicol and Jane Frame.
Old churchyard, 18th March 1874.

JAMES NICOL, miner, Wishaw, aged 54 years, married.
Parents - William Nicol and Isabella Little.
Old churchyard, 17th June 1879.

The post is getting too large, I'll continue.....

[Lodger]

The next list is from the Day Book for the new cemetery, in no particular order, just as I managed to find them.

ISABELLA BURT, housewife, Newmains, aged 59 years. (no marital status given).
Parents -William Nicol and Isabella Little.
Section D 413. 30th May 1892.

ARCHIBALD NICOL, coal miner, Morningside, aged 58 years, married.
Parents as above.
Section E 487. 13th August 1895.

ANDREW BURT, miner, Newmains, aged 22 years, single.
Parents - Andrew Burt and Isabella Nicol.
Section D 414. 6th June 1891.

HENRY MARSHALL, miner, Morningside, aged 12 years.
Parents - Robert Marshall and Isabella Burt.
Section D 414. 11th May 1892.

ALEXANDER MURDOCH, West Calder, aged 3 years and 10 months.
Parents - Alexander Murdoch and Mary Burt.
Section D 414. 15th January 1895.

THOMASINA M BURT, Newmains, aged 16 months.
Parent - Elizabeth Burt.
Section D 414. 18th November 1897.

NELLIE NICOL, schoolgirl, died Edinburgh Royal Infirmary, usual residence - Shotts. Aged 10 years.
Parents - Alexander Nicol and Marion Sommerville.
Section E 486. 5th May 1908.

ALEXANDER NICOL, coalpit roadsman, Overtown, aged 69 years, married.
Parents - William Nicol and Isabella Little.
Section E 1953. 25th August 1908.
Plot owned by Isabella Easton or Nicol, Hamilton's Land, Overtown.

ISABELLA NICOL, Hartwood Asylum, aged 75 years, widow.
Parents - William Easton and Isabella Stevenson.
Section E 1953. 11th May 1916.

ISABELLA MARSHALL, Newmains, aged 57 years, widow.
Parents - Andrew Burt and Isabella Nicol.
Section E 284. 17th January 1914.

JAMES SMELLIE, coal miner, 43 Park Street Wishaw, aged 44 years, married.
Parents - Peter Smellie and Margaret Nicol.
Section E 717. 25th November 1916.

ELIZABETH GRAHAM, housewife, Wishaw, aged 42 years, married.
Parents - William Laurie and Elizabeth Porter.
Section D 449. 5th April 1899.

MARGARET GRAHAM, Wishaw, aged 4 years.
Parents - Robert Graham and Elizabeth Laurie.
Section D 449. 5th November 1892.

JOHN GRAHAM, Wishaw, aged 6 weeks.
Parents - as above.
Section D 449. 29th April 1899.

THOMAS GRAHAM, miner, Wishaw, aged 18 years, single.
Parents as above.
Section D 449. 21st October 1899.

Plots 486 and 487 must have belonged to the same family, same for 413 and 414.

This has taken me hours to do, I hope it leads you somewhere!

Lodger.