Cambusnethan Cemetery Grave Search - Part 1

[Lodger]

Jean, the church yard in question is not the one at Cambusnethan village, it is the ancient, pre-reformation burial ground at Kirkhill (Carbarns). This is the site of the original parish church.
The parish church in Cambusnethan village was built in 1630 to replace the one at Kirkhill, and is now itself a ruined shell.

You will find information on the parish at this website - http://www.scotek.net/home.htm

Go into Messageboard and click on Books.

The picture below is of the old burial ground at Kirkhill, some poeple call it Carbarns, it was taken about 1910 and has been vandalised beyond belief since then. The large tomb (now empty) was for Lord and Lady Belhaven and Stenton. The buildings to the left (now in total ruin) were built on the site of the ancient church and were the family vaults of the Lockharts of Castlehill (lairds of Cambusnethan) and the Sommerville family.
Sir Walter Scott I believe, was married to one of the Lockhart daughters'.
The Scottish Genealogy Society has Monumental Inscriptions taken in 1974 and may be worth consulting. http://www.scotsgenealogy.com/
Motherwell Heritage Centre has MIs taken at a much later date and if I were you, I'd consult the SGS ones first.

Hope this helps a little.

[norwayjean]

Thanks
Helps a lot and thanks for the picture

[LWLen]

As long time lurker, I just want to say thanks to the posters in this thread for bringing to my attention records that I'd no idea existed - I've found so much more information, so thank you.

I recently looked at the Cambusnethan cemetery records at Motherwell and found lots of my people there, but I have a few questions about the records. Forgive me if I'm being rather presumptuous asking so many questions first time.

1) I think there was mention of the records having some gaps - does anyone know if this is true? I am looking for a couple who both died in 1903 and I was sure would be buried in Cambusnethan, but nothing in the records. Not that unusual, except I found generations of the same family from before and after this. (Also couldn't find a burial from 1955/56 which I am certain took place there)

2) I found a large number of people in the records from mid-1800s on, but not one of them is in the Cambusnethan MI booklet from LFHS. Could this mean there are no graves (at least not legible) for any of the names I've found? Or am I just looking at the wrong cemetery?

3) Are burials in common ground usually labelled as such in the cemetery records? I was concerned a few of mine might fall into this category but none of them seemed to be listed as such.

4) Is there any other way of finding out (even roughly) where in the graveyards the various lairs are (e.g. anywhere I could write to even)? I know it has been suggested that someone on duty there might be able to help but I'm conscious of the fact that I have a lot of them and I'd just be a nuisance.

Apologies if this has been a bit long, but thanks again for the enormous help this thread has already been to me.

Alan

[sarah.p]

I'm also looking for graves in the area. I went to the Bellshill Family History Centre last weekend, but they're only open Monday-Friday.

I'm looking for Bridget Barret = John Stevenson
b. c1835 Ireland
d. 8 Apr 1899 Dalziel

also Peter Bogan
b. c1849 Ireland
d. 1902 Carluke

[LWLen]

I paid a visit to the cemetery at the weekend as I was heading that way, and I think it's clarified a few things for me. I have to say though that if anyone finds what they're looking for in the old churchyard they're very lucky as it's really in a bad way. I note now that several graves are included in an area that is cordoned off round the ruins, presumably for safety reasons, so there's no joy if anyone is looking there either.

I think I can simplify my request now but I'll save it for another post. Again, thanks to all who have contributed to this thread and unknowingly already helped me greatly.

[Chesapek]

Hi Lodger
Can you tell me do you have any information on a person buried in New Stevenson Graveyard around 1948  I asked at Cambusnethan and was told that RC were not buried at Cambusnethan at that time and also there is a Church at Cambusnethan Bourgh Boundary ( as it used to be called )and there used to be a graveyard outside it but now there are houses built there I think it was very old do you have any information on it

[Lodger]

Whoever told you that Catholics were not allowed in Cambusnethan is talking rubbish! Catholics were not lepers, they had to be buried somewhere and the criteria for being buried, even in a church of Scotland parish churchyard was that you had to belong to the parish - regardless of what religion you were. (You also had to be dead). Cambusnethan cemetery is a public cemetery and anyone is entitled to be buried there, and that has always been the case since it opened in the 1860s.
There are thousands of Catholics buried in C/nethan, before and after 1942.
I don't have anything for New Stevenston, all the records are kept at that cemetery as far as I know.
As for the other cemetery now built over, that's a new one on me I'm afraid.

Lodger

[Chesapek]

It was at the office at the graveyard I was given this information I think the person was a grave digger but he did call and speak to someone as he couldn't find the person we were looking for thanks anyhow

[EDCBA]

Hi Lodger - I'm looking for some help on a branch of my family (McCormicks) who were located in Cambusnethan for a large part of their lives.  I've been at GROS and searched ScotlandsPeople extensively, but I can't locate various bits of information on BMDs between 1800-1860.  The Motherwell registrars office were unable to assist either.

The family I am looking at is that of Alexander McCormick and Isabella Rodger.  I’ve found them in Cambusnethan in the 1841 (Wishawtown) and 1851 (Mid Wishaw) censuses.

1851 census extract
Piece: SCT1851/628 Place: Cambusnethan -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 5            
Civil Parish: Cambusnethan Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Wishaw               
Folio: 649 Page: 65 Schedule: 239                     
Address: Mid Wishaw                     
MCCORMICK   Alexander   Head   M   M   66   Handloom Weaver    Ireland - -
MCCORMICK   Isabel   Wife   M   F   43      Lanarkshire - Wishaw
MCCORMICK   Edward   Son   U   M   22   Coalminer    Lanarkshire - Wishaw
MCCORMICK   Janet   Dau   U   F   20      Lanarkshire - Wishaw
MCCORMICK   John   Son   U   M   18   Coalminer    Lanarkshire - Wishaw
MCCORMICK   Margret   Dau   U   F   16      Lanarkshire - Wishaw
MCCORMICK   Alexander   Son   U   M   12   Coalminer    Lanarkshire - Wishaw
MCCORMICK   James   Son   -   M   9      Lanarkshire - Wishaw

They also had one older child Sarah born about 1826 and three younger children, Elizabeth abt 1845 David abt 1851 and Thomas abt 1854 

The father Alexander was born in Ireland between 1783 and 1791.  I have his death register entry for 1866 in Dalziel, but I'm missing marriage and burial info.   

I have no birth info for Isabella or any of her ten children although all were born in Wishaw.  Anything you could unearth would be appreciated.

Isabella and some her children, John, Alexander, James, Elizabeth, David and Thomas all emigrated to the USA in 1868/9, but anything you can tell me about Sarah, Edward, Janet and Margaret would be appreciated.

Edward married a Mary Gemmel around 1852. Mary died between 1856 and 1860 but I can’t find anything about her B, M or D.  They had a son Alexaxander born in 1852 again with no birth record. They also had  a daughter Janet born in 1856 which I do have a record of.  I have all the post 1860 information I require on this family.
 
Thanks in advance for any help