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Re: foster care paperwork in 1865
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 26 September 06 20:42 BST (UK) »
On the 1891 census Charles Booker was an 'adopted child' in the Guests household in Oldbury. In 1901 he was a 'foster son' with the family in Warley. On the earlier census his birthplace was given as Oldbury Worcestershire, on the latter census Langley Green Worcestershire.

Chorlton upon Medlock poor law union records would be in Manchester Archives.

http://users.ox.ac.uk/~peter/workhouse/Chorlton/Chorlton.shtml

Records from poor law unions and various children's homes vary in depth, survival rate and quality. From other people I have been led to believe that Barnardos nineteenth century and early twentieth century records are worth accessing, but of course you need to be a direct descendant of the child concerned.

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Re: foster care paperwork in 1865
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 26 September 06 22:22 BST (UK) »
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Records from poor law unions and various children's homes vary in
depth, survival rate and quality. From other people I have been led to believe
that Barnardos nineteenth century and early twentieth century records are worth accessing, but of course you need to be a direct descendant of the child
concerned.

Valda I couldn't agree with you more on the 1st comment.

My records from another source were very detailed.
Also my own Record Office had some information about me too.

Even though my siblings were in Barnardos and are mentioned on my papers
(under the Data Protection Act it has been blanked out where they are noted)
I am not en-titled to know what has been written about them.

Sandy
 





 

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Re: foster care paperwork in 1865
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 26 September 06 22:31 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find the circumstances of the fostering/adoption.  Which was it?  Maybe the mother withdrew the adoption consent but allowed fostering.  As you see Charles did not change his name which leads me to think he was not adopted. Because the mother retrieved her 2nd child from care I wonder if she intended the same for her son but was not able to for some reason?  I had not found Charles as the adopted son so thanks for that info.
I am a direct descendant of the daughter but am curious as to what happened to the husband and why the boy could not be cared for by his grandparents who also lived in Oldbury and were young and healthy.
Thanks for your input.
Agnes

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Re: foster care paperwork in 1865
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 26 September 06 22:35 BST (UK) »
Charles Booker was born in Oldbury.  His parents were living in Langley Road, Oldbury when he was born.


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Re: foster care paperwork in 1865
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 26 September 06 22:47 BST (UK) »
Legal Adoption did not come into law until 1927.  Prior to that the term was used loosely to cover fostering and guardianship.

Thus there didn't exist any situation where the child was refused for adoption.
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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 27 September 06 00:35 BST (UK) »
What are Charles Oliver Booker's details? When and where was he born?

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« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 27 September 06 16:07 BST (UK) »
Charles Oliver Booker was born in Oldbury, Worcester, West Bromwich registration district. 13th April 1888. Parents were Agnes and Christopher Booker, married January 1888.  I have traced Agnes's whereabouts through to her death but no trace of Christopher after the marriage.His family were a farming family in Norbury, later moving to Cannock, Staffordshire.  The son died of 'natural causes' heart disease but I am unable to get an inquest record or find his father's whereabouts.
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Re: foster care paperwork in 1865
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 27 September 06 22:12 BST (UK) »
On the 1871 census Christopher Booker born circa 1863 Norbury was with his parents Joseph and Ann Booker in Wilbrighton Shropshire. His father Joseph was a farmer of 374 acres employing 9 labourers and 4 boys.
On the 1881 census the family were in Cannock where Christopher's father was an agent.

On the 1891 census Agnes R S Booker was married and living with her parents in Oldbury but without her husband. 
On the 1901 census she was a servant in Manchester a widow, but living under her maiden name of Keene.

It is very unusual for a widow at this time to revert to her maiden name. Women who did this were more likely to have been divorced or judicially separated from their husbands.


CHRISTOPHER OSWIN BOOKER 
Christening:  20 MAR 1863   Norbury, Stafford,
Father:  JOSEPH BOOKER 
Mother:  ANN 

Marriages Mar 1888
BOOKER  Christopher Oliver    W. Bromwich  6b 866   
KEENE  Agnes Rebecca S     West Bromwich  6b 866   

Marriages Jun 1905
BOOKER  Christopher Oswin     King's N.  6c 876   
either
Allen  Agnes    King's N.  6c 876   
or
Lyon  Alberta Constance     King's N.  6c 876   

Marriages Mar 1908
BOOKER  Agnes    Chorlton  8c 1261   
either
JOHNSON  George Thomas     Chorlton  8c 1261 
or
PERRIN  Frank Adrian     Chorlton  8c 1261

Do you know what status Agnes gave on her second marriage - widowed or divorced?

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Valda
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Re: foster care paperwork in 1865
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 28 September 06 15:40 BST (UK) »
Valda, you're good!!
Christopher Booker is written as Christopher Oliver on the certificates I have but maybe that was a choice he made to change his middle name.  The second marriage certificate reads Agnes is a widow, I also thought it strange she reverted to her maiden name.  When her second husband died in 1917 she kept his name until her death in 1950. She didn't have much luck with husbands!
I have the birth record of the second child but the census for 1911 is not available,is it?  My guess is she was fostered out as a young baby and later Agnes got her back.  She remained in service as far as I know.
Thanks for your help
Agnes