Do you need help in Athy, Co Kildare

[Celtic Damsel]

Hi There, I'm afraid I dont have access to any records here in Athy other than the ones for the local Catholic cemetries from 1900 onwards, and it seems your rellies are from Laois so they would not be of any help to you anyway.
 You should perhaps determine which certs , from the information you have already, may be of use to further you research and then write to the COI Library in Churchtown in Dublin giving them the details and they will issue you with them for a fee, all of their details are on the link below, best of luck with your search and if you get any details for homesteads or burial places let me know if you want me to take some photos for you , regards Damsel

http://www.ireland.anglican.org/index.php?do=about&id=42

I am trying to find out more about my Barrington ancestors in Ireland. My great grandmother was Catherine Barrington born in "Queen's County" in about 1872. Her father was John. The family were Church of Ireland. Her sister was Frances (Fanny) who was born about 1864.

I have found references to the marriage of John Barrington and Margaret Greenham (at St Catherine's Dublin) and the christenings/birth registrations  of their children Charity, Frances (1864), Elizabeth, Kate, Henry, and Margaret (1872) in Stradbally/Athy.  I have found no mention of Catherine who might have been the twin of Margaret.

Catherine Barrington married David Edge in Rathdrum in 1896. Her father was named as John Barrington. One of the witnesses was Elizabeth Barrington. I have found Frances (1911) and Catherine Barrington (1901 and 1911) in the Irish censuses.

Do you have any information available on the birth of Catherine? (Note that another Catherine Barrington was born to Michael and Bridget Barrington in 1872). Do you know anything more or have any leads on the Barrington and Greenham families of Stradbally? Is there any known connection with the Jonah Barrington family?

[Celtic Damsel]

Hi There, I now know exactly where Cloney graveyard is ad yes it is still in use and I am told that the records should be here in Athy Town Parish Ofiice, I will find out for you in the morning if this is the case, PM me if you would, with the names and dates you are looking for, regards Damsel

Hello Bernadette

Do you know anything about the churchyard at Cloney, a little way north of Athy just off the road to Monasterevin? I know from an archaeological report I found on the planning pages of Kildare County Council that the church that used to be there is now virtually gone and the churchyard is surrounded by a farm, but the graveyard appears to be still in use.

I know from the Griffith's Valuation and that my Kelly family lived at Cloney in the 1850s, but I haven't been able to trace a death certificate for the parents - Dennis Kelly and his wife Bridget Murphy - and I wonder if they might be buried at the little churchyard at Cloney, or if they're more likely to be buried in Athy itself? They had seven children, three baptised at Monasterevin (Judith 1823, Catherine 1828 and Peter 1832), then another four children baptised at Athy (Dennis 1835, Michael 1837, Martin 1840 and Francis 1843).

Any suggestions from your clearly extensive local knowledge appreciated!

Many thanks
Richard.

[RichardK]

Thanks Damsel - I'll send you a PM.

[Celtic Damsel]

Hi Richard, after a battery of phone calls this morning ending with one to the caretaker there I'm afraid it would seem that the records for Cloney for the 19th century seem to have dissapeared without a trace along with a lot of the other smaller graveyards in the area, he said that he does not recall ever having seen a marker for a Kelly family there but then quite a lot of the markers are now unreadable, I cant check St Michaels here in the town for your burials that far back the only records that seem to exist for it too are from around 1900, sorry it's not better news , regards Damsel

Hello Bernadette

Do you know anything about the churchyard at Cloney, a little way north of Athy just off the road to Monasterevin? I know from an archaeological report I found on the planning pages of Kildare County Council that the church that used to be there is now virtually gone and the churchyard is surrounded by a farm, but the graveyard appears to be still in use.

I know from the Griffith's Valuation and that my Kelly family lived at Cloney in the 1850s, but I haven't been able to trace a death certificate for the parents - Dennis Kelly and his wife Bridget Murphy - and I wonder if they might be buried at the little churchyard at Cloney, or if they're more likely to be buried in Athy itself? They had seven children, three baptised at Monasterevin (Judith 1823, Catherine 1828 and Peter 1832), then another four children baptised at Athy (Dennis 1835, Michael 1837, Martin 1840 and Francis 1843).

Any suggestions from your clearly extensive local knowledge appreciated!

Many thanks
Richard.

[shanew147]

I am trying to find out more about my Barrington ancestors in Ireland. My great grandmother was Catherine Barrington born in "Queen's County" in about 1872. Her father was John. The family were Church of Ireland. Her sister was Frances (Fanny) who was born about 1864.

I have found references to the marriage of John Barrington and Margaret Greenham (at St Catherine's Dublin) and the christenings/birth registrations  of their children Charity, Frances (1864), Elizabeth, Kate, Henry, and Margaret (1872) in Stradbally/Athy.  I have found no mention of Catherine who might have been the twin of Margaret.

Catherine Barrington married David Edge in Rathdrum in 1896. Her father was named as John Barrington. One of the witnesses was Elizabeth Barrington. I have found Frances (1911) and Catherine Barrington (1901 and 1911) in the Irish censuses.

Do you have any information available on the birth of Catherine? (Note that another Catherine Barrington was born to Michael and Bridget Barrington in 1872). Do you know anything more or have any leads on the Barrington and Greenham families of Stradbally? Is there any known connection with the Jonah Barrington family?

hi compostellan1,
 
I had a look at the extracted births for the family on familyseach (the civil index is not working correctly at the moment) and found a few children, including a Kate (i.e. Catherine), to the couple :

parents for all the below records :

 Father's Name: John Barrington
 Mother's Name: Margaret Greenham

Name/Birth Date/Location

 Frances / 01 Jun 1864 / p433, Stradbally, Queens County
 Kate / 31 Mar 1866 / p480 Stradbally, Queens County
 Charity / 04 Sep 1867 / v18-p403, Stradbally, Queens County
 Elizabeth / 10 Nov 1869 / p422, Stradbally, Queens County
 Margaret / 01 Nov 1872 / Queens Co
 Henry /  01 Nov 1874 / v18-p407 Ireland

The numbers in the location refer to a page, or volume number and page (e.g. v18-p407) in the civil index, which can be used to establish the correct record in that  Index, to order certs with.

The town of Stradbally is in Co. Laois but is included in the Civil Registration district of Athy, which cover townlands in both counties Laois (Queens) and Kildare.

sorry Celtic Damsel for sidetracking your Athy thread with details for Laois..


Shane

[Celtic Damsel]

No problem if you can help someone do feel free, and compostellan if I can be of any further help let me know Stradbally is  not that far from me , regards Damsel

[compostellan1]

Hi Damsel and Shane

Many thanks for this. I have seen the information on the children of John and Margaret Barrington and I'm pretty sure that Frances is the sister of my great grandmother Catherine. I have a copy of Frances' birth certificate and various other bits and pieces suggesting that she is my grandmother's Aunty Fanny. The problem is with Katy who was born in 1866. I am as sure as I can be that Catherine was born in 1872 give or take one year. I suppose what I was hoping for was that there might be a Cof I parish record entry for Catherine's birth in Stradbally (Rathmore?) which would confirm that John and Margaret were her parents.  I had wondered if Katy might have died in infancy thus allowing for a later Catherine but I've seen a reference (in Family Search) to a death record  in the 1890's for  Katy so all a bit uncertain.

My next port of call must be, I guess,  the COI library in Dublin. Thank you both again for coming back so quickly.

Richard W

[shanew147]

As far as I know Kate is usually just short for Katherine/Catherine

what records do you have that points to her birth being  c1872 ?

many people underestimate ages on census and deaths records - some of mine by nearly 10 years..


Shane

[compostellan1]

Yes my daughter was christened Catherine but has always been known as Kate.

I have my great grandmother's wedding certificate (showing her as of full age  and her father as John) and her entries in the 1901 and 1911 Irish census records (for Ballinderry, Rathdrum, Co. Wicklow) both point to her being born in Queens County around 1872.

Richard