HART

[findem]

I'm looking for the marriage of Alexander Hart & Elizabeth ? circa 1745, if anyone has seen it or spots it in the future I would be very grateful for the location or any info.  Alexander was baptised 1721 at Panfield and his parents John & Elizabeth were married there.  The first four known children of Alex & Eliz were baptised at Panfield, the first of the four was John baptised 1751, the remaining four baptised at Finchingfield.  To date I haven't found children named after their parents Alexander and Elizabeth.  The next generation of my Hart family were born at White Notley and Chelmsford.  
I would be very pleased to hear from anyone linking up to my Hart family, I have gone one generation back beyond John & Elizabeth and am willing to share my info.  

[harty27]

I have traced my HART Family back to EVAN HART in Little Baddow 
married in Great Baddow in 1804 his father from Little Baddow 1780.

after 1820 my HART FAMILY  was based in PRITTLEWELL
I have  a Family tree with most of my History  on www.harties.co.uk
thanks
simon

[findem]

Hi Simon,
As you probably know now! a sibling of one of my Hart ancestors (Sarah Hart) was named Even Jones Hart and baptised 1801 at Chelmsford.  The spelling Even could be either my error in deciphering it or the original Scribe's error.  Considering the name Even/Evan and the proximity of Chelmsford to the Baddows there is a good chance we link somewhere.
I'll have a look at your site in the meantime.

[harty27]

Thanks ,
the tree on the WEB site needs updating as the Little baddow  Link is not added yet .
As EVAN Hart  born in 1805  was the son of Evan Hart  married in 1804 to Phyllis Lince   had a witness  called EVAN HART  (his Father I presume)
So there  is possibly a link 
I am aware of spelling issues as my own Grandfather ERIC EVAN HART  was actually registered as EVIN  by mistake .

Simon

[findem]

Hi Simon,
I have been wondering what progress you have made in the search for Evan Hart and a couple of questions spring to mind.

Have you looked for Evan Hart senior and wife Phyllis on census?  they might have lived long enough to make the 1851 census and if so it would give their birthplaces.

Have you searched the Lt Baddow PRs yet?

The following info regarding Samuel Hart and his wife Ann Clark might be useful to bear in mind.
Samuel Hart and the generations before him were all baptised in the Anglican churches, his wife Ann Clark was baptised in Bocking Independent.  Of their children, the first three children were born in White Notley but baptised at Bocking Independent.  The remaining seven, including Even Jones Hart 1801, were baptised at Chelmsford 1st Meeting House (Independents).
 
If my memory serves me correct I believe Samuel was a Preacher or Lay Preacher, I'll have to look my old notes to find the evidence for that recollection.  The Even Jones Hart baptised 1801 is the first mention of Even/Evan and Jones in my line.  My thoughts are, were our Evens named out of admiration for some Welsh Independent preacher/missionary etc? I understand there were a few around in Essex at some time.  If my theory is correct, even if our Harts are not linked, they either went at sometime to the same church or listened to the same preacher, or my theory is just a load of garbage.         

[harty27]

I have no further real research other than checking the 1861 census  results  with no phyllis Hart  showing and the only evans are younger and the nearest to 1805 evan is 2 years out

But I will investigate further and trundle down to Chelmsford records office
how did you track forward of 1800 as far as 1690's

Simon
 

[findem]

My Hart research started off with the marriage of Sarah Hart to William Olley in 1813 at Chelmsford, the marriage and a census gave me a clue to Sarah.  I found the marriage of Sarah's parents, Samuel Hart and Ann Clark, I think, from Jack Baxter's Essex Marriage Index.  Armed with that and some clues from the IGI, I was off and running (at times more like stumbling), luck also played a big part, the Family Search site was a big help with the Hart family, using the IGI, Ancestral File and Pedrigree Resource File there was a wealth of Hart info to check through.  There are also a lot of Thaxted Harts on the IGI but I haven't linked to them yet.
I usually get over to the UK and Essex every second year, this is when I confirm (or not) the IGI and other clues and take them further in the PRs.

In the ERO they have a set of volumes which contain indexes to baptisms and marriages, they are very useful, have a word with the duty Archivist he/she will show you where to find them.
 
My stumbling box has been and still is, finding the marriage of Alexander Hart and Elizabeth circa 1745 or possibly earlier, fortunately it hasn't stopped my Hart research. 
Currently I'm also looking for the marriage of John and Jane Hart circa 1689, They had two sons named John baptised, one in 1692 (buried 1696) the other baptised 1697, both the baptisms and burial were at Panfield.  According to the IGI there was also a Jane baptised at Panfield 1689 but I couldn't find her.

By the way don't be too hasty in dismissing census finds because they are a year or two out, ages given in the censuses are often out and somtimes way out.