1861 lookup request

[TrishaG]

Hi,
can someone find this family for me?
They might might be living around Windhill or Beigate,Idle.

Daniel Raynor/Rayner-age c 26 -born ?- occ-?
 Mary-wife- age 26--born in Idle-occ-Worsted Loom weaver


Many thanks
Trisha

[brer]

There's only one "Mary RAYNER" with a husband called "Daniel" that's sticking out to me - and they're living with Mary's parents -

1861

Lees Grove, Thornhill Lane, Yorkshire, England – RG9/3416/40/6

Joshua   HEMMINGWAY   H   57   M   Cloth Weaver   Dewsbury, Yorks
Peace   HEMMINGWAY   W   58   M   -   Dewsbury, Yorks
Steven   HEMMINGWAY   S   20   U   Coal Miner   Dewsbury, Yorks
Harriet   HEMMINGWAY   D   16   -   Woollen Weaver   Dewsbury, Yorks
Daniel   RAYNER   SiL   34   M   Sawyer   Osset, Yorks
Mary   RAYNER   D   31   M   -   Dewsbury, Yorks
Charlotte   RAYNER   GD   9   -   Scholar   Dewsbury, Yorks
Joseph   RAYNER   GS   3   -   -   Dewsbury, Yorks
Fredrick   RAYNER   GS   8   -   Scholar   Dewsbury, Yorks

~~~~~~~~
Marriages Dec 1850
HEMINGWAY  Mary     Dewsbury  22 52   
RAYNER  Daniel     Dewsbury  22 52   


HTH

~ Claire

[TrishaG]

Hi Claire,
I think thats very likely to be the right family.
I'm going to post for him in 1871 and see if that takes me any further forwards.
Many ,many thanks,
Trisha

[brer]

Peace and Mary died before the 1871 census -

BURIALS at St Micheal and All Angels, Thornhill

15Dec1867   Peace   HEMINGWAY   age 62   Thornhill, St Michael & All Angels
3Sep1870   Mary   RAYNER   age 40   Thornhill, St Michael & All Angels


1871

Lees Grove, Thornhill Lane, Yorkshire, England – RG10/4612/29/4

Joshua   HEMMINGWAY   H   67   W   Receiving 2/6 per week from Parish   Dewsbury, Yorks
Daniel   RAYNER   SiL   44   W   Plumber   Osset, Yorks
George   RAYNER   GS   16   -   Scale Picker at Coal Pit   Thornhill, Yorks
Tom   RAYNER   GS   6   -   Scholar   Thornhill, Yorks

and then Daniel and Joshua just after - (I can't find their burials)

Name:   Daniel Rayner
Death Year 3rd ¼1875
Age 49
Dewsbury


Name:   Joshua Hemingway
Year 4th ¼ 1871
Age 69
Dewsbury
 
~ Claire

[TrishaG]

Hi Claire,
ah,got a problem here.My Step grandfather was born about 1872/3 .His name was Walter and his father was called Daniel(this is all I know of him.I got it from his wedding certificate except that he always said he came from bradford or Barnsley-can't remember what my father used to say.Mind you that could mean the general area).Unless his age was wrong at his marriage Mary Rayner couldn't have been his mother?
Help!
This family seemed so right and still have my suspicions that this Daniel Rayner might be the right one.
Sue.

[brer]

1851

Boothroy Lane, Dewsbury, Yorkshire, England – HO107/2324/288/9

Joshua   HEMMINGWAY   H   47   M   Wood Sawyer   Dewsbury, Yorks
Peace   HEMMINGWAY   W   48   M   Wife   Dewsbury, Yorks
Joseph   HEMMINGWAY   S   24   U   Coal Miner   Dewsbury, Yorks
Hannah   HEMMINGWAY   D   22   U   Power Loom Weaver   Dewsbury, Yorks
Arthur   HEMMINGWAY   S   15   -   Coal Miner   Dewsbury, Yorks
Joshua   HEMMINGWAY   S   13   -   Coal Miner   Dewsbury, Yorks
Stewton   HEMMINGWAY   S   11   -   Scholar   Dewsbury, Yorks
Bethel   HEMMINGWAY   D   8   -   Scholar   Dewsbury, Yorks
Harriet   HEMMINGWAY   D   5   -   Scholar   Dewsbury, Yorks

Next door is another HEMMINGWAY family headed by “Sophia HEMMINGWAY”, then next door to them (transcribed as RAYNE) is -

1851[/u]

Boothroy Lane, Dewsbury, Yorkshire, England – HO107/2324/288/9

Robert   RAYNER   H   32   M    Carpet Weaver   Birstal [sic], Yorks
Betty   RAYNER   W   26   M   Wife   Dewsbury, Yorks
Joseph   RAYNER   S   4   -   -   Dewsbury, Yorks
William   RAYNER   D   1   -   -   Birstal [sic], Yorks
Daniel   RAYNER   Lodger   21   M   Mahogany Lather   Dewsbury, Yorks
Mary   RAYNER   Lodger   19   M   Power Loom Weaver   Dewsbury, Yorks
Rhoda   NEWTON   Lodger   21   U   (I can’t read it)   Dewsbury, Yorks

I’ve looked for Daniel in 1841 but can’t spot him yet – I’ve checked to see where Robert is but Daniel’s not with him.

~ Claire

[WPR]

Trisha:

Robert and Betty (née Hemingway) Rayner were my Great Great Grandparents. According to the 1851 census, Daniel and Mary (née Hemingway) Rayner were lodgers at their house on Boothroyd Lane, Dewsbury. We are currently pursuing the possibility that Daniel and Robert were cousins or second cousins. It would seem that the Hemingway women had a thing for Rayner men.

Robert's father was Robert Rayner of Dewsbury. His father, we believe, was Thomas Rayner of Dewsbury, my Great Great Great Great Grandfather. Robert the elder had a brother named Thomas and Daniel's baptism record lists his father as Thomas. Since Robert (the younger) and Daniel were close in age, we think Thomas (the younger) may have been Daniel's father. We're still in the process of trying to sort this out. I have quite a bit of information on the Robert Rayner chain up to the present day.

Hope this helps...

W. Paul Rayner

[TrishaG]

Hi,
I'm very interested in your post.
As you have read I'm trying to find the family of my step grandfather Walter RAYNER/RAYNOR.As you can also sumise I've got a problem with the Daniel Rayner/Mary Hemingway link(which was a real shame as it seemed to fit so well ).My step grandfather was 46 on July 25th 1918(according to his marriage certificate) .He was therefore born 1871/72 which means he can't be their son(unless Walter gave the wrong age?).He was also a bachelor when he married.
Do you have any info about a Walter Raynor born about that time.The slightest info would be great.
Look forward to hearing from you.It would be great to knock over this particular brick wall-lol.
Trisha 

[WPR]

Trisha:

This might be a lead for you. I've found a Walter Rayner born in 1871 in Thornhill, Dewsbury of parents Thomas and Mary Rayner. Thornhill Parish is the parish church of the Hemingway family which is why this particular record caught my eye. Perhaps Daniel and and the elder Mary Rayner were his grandparents.

One of the major problems in researching the Rayners, especially in the West Riding, is that there are just so many of them. Another researcher I've been working with has counted 64 separate Rayner families in one parish alone. It quickly becomes a daunting task especially when the records are vague or incomplete.

I hope this helps...

W. Paul Rayner