Hi Paul, Edmund was born 24th October 1856 and only has the name Edmund, the John seems to have appeared on the 1911 census for the first time. Sarah was the 20th December 1957. The marriage certificate gives his name as Edmund John and they married 9th August 1879. John and Harriet, Edmunds parent's married 23rd December 1854. Rebecca married a James Walker 12th July 1886, they are both buried in Wrexham cemetery no headstone on the grave and could only find only approxmate place of where the grave would be. Rebecca is on the 1881 census but her age is wrong could be because she was in a pub in Brymbo working. After her marriage she lived in Southsea. Would love the photo's you could email them to me but I can't remember how to send personal message to give you my email address. Anyway will try to work it out. Norma