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[SB]

Sorry to be so persistent, but I thought I'd start a new thread out of the ashes of my previous enquiries about the residents of 4, Feathers Place in the 1891 and 1901 Censuses.
Having giving it all further study, and realising that the building just up the road on the same side was The Roan Boys School, and that it had the address of 14, Eastney Street, I am fairly confident that Feathers Place was previously named Eastney Street
Therefore, could some patient person please have a look at the address, 4, Eastney Street on the 1891 or/and 1901 Census?
The existence of this Boys' School might help to pinpoint the household I am searching for.
Thank you and best wishes,
SB
   

[Elleray Girl]

Hi SB,

Will start to look at the census for you but in the meantime you may or may not have seen this site:

http://www.londontown.com/LondonStreets/feathers_place_1f5.html

There is a link to a map of the area - I also had a look at the old-maps site and it is bringing up a map for 1900.

Is there a particular name you are looking for?

Karen

[Elleray Girl]

Have just done an address search on 1901census online - there is no Eastney Street recorded in Greenwich. There is however Plume of Feathers Court in the right area - do you think this may be the one?

Karen

[Elleray Girl]

Hi again,

Found this old map of c 1870 - if you zoom in you can see that the road is East Street.

http://www.ideal-homes.org.uk/images/greenwich/central-greenwich/map-east-greenwich-01279-1338.jpg

There is no number 4 East Street recorded in the 1901 but the following entries appear;

4 Charlton Terrace, East Street, Greenwich
George Hammerton, Head, 32, General Labourer, born New Brompton Kent
Sarah Hammerton, Wife, 32, born Reading Berkshire
Minnie Hammerton, Sister, 14 born Greenwich
John Hammerton, Father, 59, Painter & Glazier born Coventry Warwickshire

4 Wybourns Cottages, East Street, Greenwich
William Chapman, Head, 38, general labourer, born London Greenwich
Caroline Chapman, Wife, 34 also born Greenwich

4 and 5 Smiths Rents, East Street, Greenwich
Henry Sharp, Head, 36, Bricklayers Labourer, born Surrey Upper ?
Elizabeth Sharp, Wife, 28, born Sheerness Kent
Mary 7 and Lillian 3, Daughters born Greenwich

Kind Regards,

Karen

[casalguidi]

Not sure if it helps but a 1914 directory lists ......................

Eastney Street (Park Place to High Bridge)

East Side
2 & 2a Edwd Wm H BOORE confectioner
Roan Endowed Boys School
Wm DOWNS & Son cooper
22 William Anthony WILSON temperance brewer

then Trafalgar Rd, Hardy Cottages & Old Woolwich Road

24 Samuel JACKAMAN fried fish shop
St Mary's C of E mission room
Mission House - Edwin VOKES
Henry BROWN waste paper dealer
(Queen's Court)
38 Joseph TAYLOR chandler's shop
48 Ernest FREAK marine store dealer

West side
9 George Ebenezer MORGAN jobmaster
27 & 29 John Hen. SNELLING chan(dlers?) sh(op?)
here is Trafalgar Road
Little Crown PH - Frederick Horden COOPER
here is Woolwich Road

1911 is nearly the same ......................

2 & 2a BOORE confectioner
Roan school
DOWNS cooper
(here are Clark's Buildings)
22 WILLSON temperance brewer
(here are Trafalgar and Old Woolwich Roads)
24 JACKAMAN fried fish shop
St Mary's C of E Mission Room
VOKES Edwin - Mission House
48 FREAK Ernest marine store dealer

27 & 29 SNELLING John Hen (gen shp)
(here is Trafalgar Road)
Little Crown PH
(here is Old Woolwich Road)

Of course, these particular directories only list trades people etc..

Casalguidi

[Greenonions]

Hi,
In the 1891 census: following the street order,, next to Crane Steet is Lower East street.
This runs from The main road( Trafalgar Road ) down to Crane Street by the river.
East street is on the other side of Trafalgar road.

Living at no 4 Lower East street is a George Reynolds and family.
RG12- 511 folio 22

Bob

[casalguidi]

Eastney Street, as it appears in 1911, is East Street in 1908 so there must have been a name change between those two dates.

So, 1901 directory .................

East Street, Trafalgar Road, East Greenwich

2 George BRIEN builder
4 Mrs Jane BRIEN confectioner
10 James PERRY mechanical engineer
Roan School
(Clark's Buildings)
14 DOWNS cooper
(here are Trafalgar & Old Woolwich Roads)
66  Thomas CARR fried fish shop
68 Joseph EAVES fishmonger
C of E Mission Room
80 Frank SAMOUELLE fishmonger
92 Henry WARD general dealer

West Side of Easst Street
Roan Technical School
19 Fortune of War PH
37 SNELLING dealer
(Trafalgar Road)
45 Little Crown PH
47 Dan PRESCOTT greengrocer
51 Mrs Harriett SARGEANT shopkeeper
(Old Woolwich Rd)

Don't forget that what is number 4 now is not necessarily the same property as number 4 back then ..................... we have seen how the street names have changed and house numbers were even more susceptible to change

I think you need to work back through the local street directories and electoral registers for Greenwich from the present day year by year to ensure that you are tracking the correct property ................. it is quite easy to spot changes in them.

Best wishes

Casalguidi

[SB]

Elleray Queen, you have been very busy, thankyou.
I have really been struggling with the address. The Street is Feathers Place today, and I have been told that it once continued  North to High Bridge, and was named East Street.Certainly the 1870 map you directed me to shows East Street in that position, so this is very helpful.
The house  is situated almost at the junction with Park Vista (named Park Place on the 1870 map).

Casalguidi, your reply seems to answer this question, it would appear that the house I am looking at could   be possibly be no 2 or 2a, the confectioner's since the Roan school is close by, today there are two or three houses between I think.
Thanks to you for the further research and also the tip about the local directories, I will get digging, also to Bob.

I know the house was built in 1744, and my interest is in the history of the building rather than in a particular resident .

Thankyou very much for your research which has already taken me forward a few paces.
Best wishes,
SB

[casalguidi]

Hi SB

The local street directories and electoral registers should enable you to track the exact building back to c1900 from the present day especially if the numbering/street names have changed over the years as you can verify neighbours etc. appearing in the same order if they are listed with different addresses

Casalguidi