Priscilla Lee from Hartlepool

[tjackson]

That’s great

[Annette7]

Whilst Priscilla from 1871 to 1911 states she was bc.1851 Hartlepool, by 1939 she has 'lost' 12 years and states born 1863 (which is impossible as we know).   She dies as Priscilla Davis bc.1864, Death reg'd June qtr.1942 Hartlepool.

Found details of her second marriage to Thomas Davis (who I think died 1933) when she states she is Priscilla Thompson, widow, aged 40 (?), daughter of Thomas Lee, labourer (deceased).   Was the certificate of her first marriage ever obtained?   If so, did this give her father as a Thomas Lee too?

William Maughan was married to Priscilla Gaffney b.1904, (daughter of Thomas and Ethel Gaffney), in 1923 Hartlepool.

An elusive lady who doesn't appear to have existed until her first marriage.

Annette

[Julz MM]

Hi Annette

Yes very elusive. I did find a christening for her, or think it is for her, from Freereg. A long long time ago when the records online were of the pages in the bmd registers, I did find her birth in the records, in 1850 in Hartlepool, and Im sure I printed it out, but I seem to have lost this. (I can see still the page, it was the middle column half way down the page, its so annoying that I cant find it). All the online records now have no trace of this. And yes, she lost years through the years! Now I have contact with Tonia, Im hoping to get it all in order!
CHRISTENING: County Durham
Place Trimdon
Church name St Mary Magdalen
Register type Bishop's Transcripts
Register entry number 673
Baptism date 07 Aug 1850
Person forename Priscilla
Person sex F
Person abode Gateshead
Father forename Thomas
Father surname LEE
Father occupation Basket Maker
Mother forename Louisa

[tjackson]

Hi Julia and Annette.  I spent quite a lot of this weekend looking at Priscilla but didn't get anywhere.  Marriage to George Thompson in 1869 states her age as 18; in 1871 census she is aged 20; in 1881 census she is 31, in 1891 census she is 41.  I can't find any other family in 1901 census -  have you had any luck?  In 1894 (marriage to Thomas Davis) she is aged 40.  In 1911 census she is aged 60; on 1939 census her date of birth is 25 July 1863, which would make her 76 years, but means that she was 6 years old when she first got married!!!  Her death certificate states 78 years.  A puzzler. 

I've found quite a lot of interesting info on the Gaffney side if you are interested.
Regards
Tonia

[Julz MM]

I have some census data on Priscilla, but not on my PC here. Ive got other details from local registers from Hartlepool too somewhere. My grandma seemed to be in awe of her, so it wouldnt surprise me if she fudged her age on purpose. She also thought she had married the Maughan.
I would love information on the Gaffney side if you have it.
Tonia I wonder if your father knew my grandmother quite well, she was Joan Alderson, b 1927, or even if you knew her?
Julia

[Annette7]

Suspect since you have been searching a long time that you already have this information but for the sake of this thread I'll post what I think is the family in 1851 at Huddersfield, Yorkshire (although it doesn't help a great deal except to show they had a large number of children):

Thomas Lee    43     Basket Maker (Gypsy's)
L. Lee             43
Thomas Lee    19      Basket Maker
Eve Lee   15
Owen Lee  12
C. Lee (dau.)  9
R. Lee (dau.) 6
J. Lee (son) 9
Abrn. Lee (son) 3
M. Lee (son) 4
P. Lee (dau.) 8 (I think this should be 8 months and is your Priscilla).

Birthplaces for all shown as 'Not Known'!!

Have found what would appear to be baptisms of some children to Thomas and Louisa (an online tree has her maiden name as Wharton/Worten but no source given and they didn't register the births of their children):

Fanny Lee bp.24/2/1828 Newchapel, Staffordshire - Thomas 'traveller' abode Thursfield.
Matilda Lee bp.17/5/1829 Welbury, Yorkshire - Thomas a Basket Maker.
Righteous Lee bp.4/3/1832 Seaton Ross, Yorkshire - Thomas Basket Maker, abode Bridgnorth,
                                                                                                                         Shropshire
Eve Lee bp.29/1/1836 Embleton, Northumberland
Charity Lee bp.21/5/1839 Wolviston, Durham
Athaziah Lee bp.28/5/1841 Kirkby Overblow, Yorkshire - Robert Basket Maker, abode Newcastle.

Annette                     

[tjackson]

Hi Annette.  Thanks for all your help. Do you have the Lee family in your tree?  I’ve seen the census from 1851 before and there is in fact Whorltons as the family prior to the Lees so could be the right family - just so hard to be sure. I’ve not come across the baptisms you’ve found so I’ll take a look at them.

I’ll let you know if I make any breakthroughs.

Bye for now

[Annette7]

No, I'm not connected to the Lee family, just trying to help.

I ought to have mentioned that the baptisms I found did show that parents were Thomas and Louisa - I only specified Thomas to show his occupation.

Annette 

[tjackson]

Hi Annette. Thanks for all your help. That’s very kind of you. I’ve had a DNA match on Ancestry who has Righteous Lee in her tree, so that looks promising - thanks again.

Regards
Tonia