PLEASE Holy Baptisms 1569 - 1837 Look-up Request (RICHARDS)

[Mr Rivers]

Hello Karren

This is the first time I've used a messageboard like this - so please excuse me if this is in the wrong place! 

I saw you are offering to do look-ups for Holy Baptisms 1569 - 1837 in Glamorgan? How kind!

I'm looking for the birth of Joseph Richards, born c1838 in the Llangyfelach area near Swansea?

His parents were David Richards (a carpenter) and Sarah Davies, both born around 1796 OUTSIDE of Glamorganshire (according to the 1841 census).  I'm hoping the PR might provide a clue to where David and Sarah were from?

Josephs older siblings were HENRY (born c.1826), ELIZABETH, (born c.1826), and JOHN (born c.1830), while his younger brother was BENJAMIN (born c.1840).  All born, according to later census returns, in the Llangyfelach area near Swansea.

If you could find Joseph or any of his siblings - it would be very much appreciated!

All I know is that David Richards and Sarah Richards (nee Davies) were both born around 1796 OUTSIDE of Glamorganshire - but that could be ANYWHERE!  I've no idea where to look!  On other  lines, I've been given good clues in the parish register, so am hoping this little enquiry might take me to the next level (tracking down David Richards roots).

Please help if you can - any advice welcome.

Kind Regards

Curtis
 

[Renamed in case anyone else can help as well ]

[Chasing-fireflies]

Hello there,
Welcome to rootschat!!
You put the request in the right place but i am not sure if i can be of too much help here.
I have checked the baptism index (pre 1837) and the only possible reference is for an Elizabeth Richards with parents called David and Sarah in 1826 in Swansea. I am not sure if this could be them as the Father's occupation is down as Mariner but it is the only possible match i can find for any of them!!!
In my own research i have had trouble locating many many baptisms!
If you think this is a possible match then let me know and i will PM you the details. If you do find it is a match then copies from the original register are available from the Glamorgan fhs which include more detail than what i would have.
Karren
 

[rhys]

Hello Curtis
In 1851 the family are enumerated as Richard
Sarah is described as a Carpenters widow born Carmarthen


Rhys

[Chasing-fireflies]

Hello again,
Just to say that i also looked under RICHARD as well as with an *s* as often they can be written incorrectly or interpreted wrongly.
 

[Mr Rivers]

Thanks ever so much Karren and Rhys.

Karren - The Elizabeth you mention was born in 1826 to David and Sarah, but I made a typo in the first posting, it should have read Henry born c.1826 and Elizabeth born c.1829. Sorry.  Actual census reads as follows:

2465 1851 CENSUS OF CLYDACH. REF.H.O.107/2465, E.D.1A.                                                                               

Piece: 2465      Folio: 013     Schedule: 063

Address: YNYSPENLLWCH           

RICHARD SARAH              HD W  55   CARPENTERS WIDOW         
                                      CMN -                            (c1796)
RICHARD HENRY              SO U  25   SCALER                   
                                      GLA LLANGYFELACH                 (c1826)
RICHARD ELIZABETH          DA U  22   HOUSEMAID                 
                                      GLA LLANGYFELACH                 (c1829)
RICHARD JOHN               SO U  20   SAWYER                   
                                      GLA LLANGYFELACH                 (c1831)
RICHARD JOSEPH             SO U  12   COLD TINPLATE ROLLER     
                                      GLA LLANGYFELACH                 (c1839)
RICHARD BENJAMIN           SO U  10   ROLLS TENDER             
                                      GLA LLANGYFELACH                 (c1841)
WILLIAMS SAMUEL            LG U  20   AG. LABOURER             
                                      GLA LLANGYFELACH                 (c1831)

Rhys - thanks for the note on Richard v Richards.  I did have the 1851 entry above, but not the original (ordered a CD today containing that record).

Coming back to this from a long break, I don't recall pursuing the birth of Sarah Davies (Sarh Richards birth name) in Carmarthen.  A big enough county and a common enough surname, but maybe if I locate the parish she grew up in, I might find her marriage in that PR to David Richards - which might mention which parish he is from!  Lots of 'mights' and 'maybe's but worth a try I think? I shall pursue that line of enquiry ASAP.

Thanks again to both of you.

Is it just me, or is it a bit odd that the 1851 census clearly states the kids were born in GLA LLANGYFELACH, yet no record of their births are in those PRs???

[Chasing-fireflies]

Hello,
I checked again within five years of their approx. births but again nothing!
Its quite common for this to happen as from what i gather, pre 1837 baptisms were done at all sorts of different churches/chapels but not all records have survived/been submitted. Genuki gives some info on this for various areas.
If i can be of any more help then let me know
 

[Mr Rivers]

Thanks very much Karren.  Your help has been very much appreciated.

I think my next step to is to look for Sarah Davies birth over in Carmarthen, in the hope that she married in the same parish (and in the hope that those records mention where David Richards came from).  I've just been looking online, and there seems an endless amount of parishes to search for in Carmarthen!!

I'm currently trying to locate any kind of CD or Fiche index or transcript for Carmarthen births and/or marriages to begin this task.

Thanks again for your help.

Curtis

[galloprowe]

I have some baptisms for David and Sarah Richard of Llangyfellach Glamorgan Wales. I have found seven children(not all baptisms) they are Ann, Henry, Elizabeth, Hannah, John Joseph and Benjamin. If you are still interested get in touch. Georgina

[Mr Rivers]

Hi Georgina, and thank you for your kind offer.  I am indeed interested in any information you have on my RICHARDS / RICHARD ancestry!

The trail ran cold, and I never did discover a birth place for David or Sarah - I'm hoping your post might re-ignite my passion for family history, so i can blow the dust off my files and begin tracing my RICHARDS line back further.

Please feel free to get back in touch with any information you have.  Kindest Regards. Curtis. x