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Offline Patricia jackson

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Re: missing marriage record?
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 12 September 06 14:51 BST (UK) »
Thanks Michael for your reply, not really sure where to go next. Thanks also BrianS for your  reply. there must be some missing marriages. I knew there were some, but wasn't sure how many.  I too have been searching for many months now, and yet I have had no problem finding  his 2nd marriage which was in 1875.
Brown, Twizell, Storey & fenwick  from Northumberland, Parkinson, from Lincolnshire, Kelly, Kinsella  & Mcguire from Ireland. Mellor originally from Derbyshire, Allens from Norfolk and Jackson originally from Sutton Coldfield.

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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 12 September 06 17:08 BST (UK) »
Hi,

What was the name of Henry's father?  It may be possible that he was born 'out of wedlock' and was baptised with his mothers maiden name, but brought up as a Fenwick, but used his baptised name when he married (the 1st time).  It happened with one of my ancestors!!

Kath
Bladen (Tipton, & Yorks), Teece, Cooke(Coalville), Stott (Staffs), Carr, Armitage, Henrickson, Lisle (Yorks), Pailing, Stott, Leach, Davies (Llanasa), Taylor, McDonald, Garry, Brackenbury, Brand, Rewston
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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 12 September 06 21:32 BST (UK) »
Hi Kath, many thanks for your reply, Henry's father was called william he married so it seems but I am not 100% sure an Isabella Clark.  He was a shoemaker by trade, where as Henry was first a joiner and then a mrkt gardener.I must admit I never thought of that. I have Henry on the 1851 census as an apprentice  joiner aged 18,  but I never found him on the 1841 census He was born in about 1831,on the other census details he was a married man, first to Isabella, and then to a Sarah Todd
Brown, Twizell, Storey & fenwick  from Northumberland, Parkinson, from Lincolnshire, Kelly, Kinsella  & Mcguire from Ireland. Mellor originally from Derbyshire, Allens from Norfolk and Jackson originally from Sutton Coldfield.

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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 13 September 06 10:54 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Here's your Henry on 1841, if you use ancestry he is transcribed as Fennick:

Newgate Street, Morpeth (H0107/835/12, Page 2, Folio 34)
William Fenwick, 45, Shoem (all born in county)
Isabella    "       , 45
James       "       , 20 Shoem
William      "       , 15
Isabella     "      , 14
Henry        "      , 12
Rachel       "      , 8
Solomon    "      , 6

Looking at where he is in the order of the siblings, probably not born 'out of wedlock', but I suppose there is still the possibility that his mum was married before and William is her second husband.  I'll dig around some more.

Kath
Bladen (Tipton, & Yorks), Teece, Cooke(Coalville), Stott (Staffs), Carr, Armitage, Henrickson, Lisle (Yorks), Pailing, Stott, Leach, Davies (Llanasa), Taylor, McDonald, Garry, Brackenbury, Brand, Rewston
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« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 13 September 06 11:57 BST (UK) »
Hi Kath.
and many thanks for your reply, and also the info on the 1841 census, I had looked under Ferwick but not Fennick it is most definately the right one. The only marriage I could come up with for William Fenwick to an Isabella  [Clark}is I think wrong it was at Tynemouth but the year was 1808, and I do not think that will fit in with childrens ages - or their ages.
Brown, Twizell, Storey & fenwick  from Northumberland, Parkinson, from Lincolnshire, Kelly, Kinsella  & Mcguire from Ireland. Mellor originally from Derbyshire, Allens from Norfolk and Jackson originally from Sutton Coldfield.

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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 13 September 06 12:12 BST (UK) »
How sure are you that it was Isabella Clark?  I ask because there is a marriage between a William Fenwick and Isabella Jackson on the 20th Feb 1815 at Morpeth (on the IGI).

Kath
Bladen (Tipton, & Yorks), Teece, Cooke(Coalville), Stott (Staffs), Carr, Armitage, Henrickson, Lisle (Yorks), Pailing, Stott, Leach, Davies (Llanasa), Taylor, McDonald, Garry, Brackenbury, Brand, Rewston
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« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 13 September 06 13:44 BST (UK) »
Hi Kath and thankyou for your reply. I do not  think it was Isabella Clark,the years do not seem to tie up, the Isabella Jackson one seems to fit the bill more  - re the dates and ages, did not see that on the IGI will check, and it is at Morpeth too.
Brown, Twizell, Storey & fenwick  from Northumberland, Parkinson, from Lincolnshire, Kelly, Kinsella  & Mcguire from Ireland. Mellor originally from Derbyshire, Allens from Norfolk and Jackson originally from Sutton Coldfield.