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Chesterfield Football Player
« on: Monday 04 September 06 01:21 BST (UK) »
Hi I am looking for any information on a Chesterfield Football player by the name of EDWIN NEVE, often referred to as Ned Neve or sometimes mispelt as Neave. I know he was born in Prestwich and after playing at Hull moved to Chesterfield. He died when quite young but I do not know how or where.
Any help would be much appreciated.
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Bell, Brodsworth, Felkirk, Wath-Upon-Dearne, Yorkshire<br />Bright, Eyre, Jessop, Wilkinson, Sheffield, Yorkshire<br />Fielding, Lound Retford, Lincolnshire and Sheffield, Yorkshire<br />Law,  Felkirk, Wath-Upon-Dearne, Yorkshire<br />Lister, Flockton, Wath-Upon-Dearne, Yorkshire<br />Mitchell, Langsett, Nr. Penistone Yorkshire.<br />Walton, Cudworth, Barnsley Yorkshire.<br />Stanger, Lincolnshire, Northamptonshire, Yorkshire.<br />Gratwick, London and Kent<br />Fahy, Limerick, Southern Ireland

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Re: Chesterfield Football Player
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 01 October 06 13:14 BST (UK) »
Hi Pennine,

Have you tried www.allfootballers.com ?

I found my footballer ancestor on there and it was quite a good site.


I've looked for "Neve" and found that they have him as:

Ned Neve (W-Winger?) from 1906 to 1911 Hull City
                                     from 1912 to 1913 Derby County
                                     from 1914 to 1914 Nottingham Forrest

Could this be him?

If you click on his name, they also have his date of birth as 03/05/1885, born in Prescot, and died 1920. 

He played 102 games for Hull and scored 12 goals, 47 games for Derby and scored 1 goal and 35 games for Notts Forrest and scored 3 goals.

There's also more info on league position etc.

Sally
Foreman, McAlpine, Bainbridge - Northumberland
White, Keeley, Golding - Suffolk
Johnson - Staffordshire
Wild, Green, Cusworth - Yorkshire (West Riding)

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Re: Chesterfield Football Player
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 01 October 06 13:28 BST (UK) »
Hi again,

I've found his death on 1837online.

Edwin Neve age 35 Sept 1/4 1920 Prescot 8b 599.


Sally
Foreman, McAlpine, Bainbridge - Northumberland
White, Keeley, Golding - Suffolk
Johnson - Staffordshire
Wild, Green, Cusworth - Yorkshire (West Riding)

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Re: Chesterfield Football Player
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 01 October 06 19:24 BST (UK) »
Hi Sally thank you so much for your help, at last a breakthrough. I knew he was born in Prescott but had no idea about his death now I can get the certificate.
Thank you for your help.
Pennine
Bell, Brodsworth, Felkirk, Wath-Upon-Dearne, Yorkshire<br />Bright, Eyre, Jessop, Wilkinson, Sheffield, Yorkshire<br />Fielding, Lound Retford, Lincolnshire and Sheffield, Yorkshire<br />Law,  Felkirk, Wath-Upon-Dearne, Yorkshire<br />Lister, Flockton, Wath-Upon-Dearne, Yorkshire<br />Mitchell, Langsett, Nr. Penistone Yorkshire.<br />Walton, Cudworth, Barnsley Yorkshire.<br />Stanger, Lincolnshire, Northamptonshire, Yorkshire.<br />Gratwick, London and Kent<br />Fahy, Limerick, Southern Ireland


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Re: Chesterfield Football Player
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 03 October 06 17:59 BST (UK) »
could this be him
bombadier edwin neve
80636
royal garrison artillery.
served in ww1
mack
manchester regiment,ww1

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Re: Chesterfield Football Player
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 03 October 06 22:05 BST (UK) »
Hi Mack I don't really know. How would I check that one out?  It is very confusing and I am probably very thick.
Thanks for the information.
Pennine
Bell, Brodsworth, Felkirk, Wath-Upon-Dearne, Yorkshire<br />Bright, Eyre, Jessop, Wilkinson, Sheffield, Yorkshire<br />Fielding, Lound Retford, Lincolnshire and Sheffield, Yorkshire<br />Law,  Felkirk, Wath-Upon-Dearne, Yorkshire<br />Lister, Flockton, Wath-Upon-Dearne, Yorkshire<br />Mitchell, Langsett, Nr. Penistone Yorkshire.<br />Walton, Cudworth, Barnsley Yorkshire.<br />Stanger, Lincolnshire, Northamptonshire, Yorkshire.<br />Gratwick, London and Kent<br />Fahy, Limerick, Southern Ireland

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Re: Chesterfield Football Player
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 04 October 06 11:17 BST (UK) »
his football career stopped at 1914 which suggests he joined up,hes the only edwin neve who served in ww1,and he didnt resume his football career after the war which could mean he was suffering from the effects of his war service,either wounds or sickness,he would have been demobilised from the army between jan/apr 1919,there could be something in his hometown newspapers about him being wounded,hes a local celeb,i would contact notts forest and ask if they know of any war service,theres a good pal of mine on the armed forces board[monsstar] who does research at kew,his attestation papers will give all his personal details if they survived the blitz,many were destroyed in ww2,mack
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Re: Chesterfield Football Player
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 04 October 06 19:36 BST (UK) »
Hello again,

Most leagues stopped playing matches during the war period, considered a bit frivolous while others were out fighting the war, so he could have been out on a limb during the war.  Could be one reason to sign up. But not necessarily.

Some footballers did enlist, I'm sure there was at least one regiment that was made up of previous football players, but others did other work until the leagues got going again after the war.  Some footballers continued to play in minor leagues, possibly to keep fit and just be playing, that didn't compromise the bigger leagues that they usually played in.

If you visit National Archives Site www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and look at their WW1 pages, you could find more information.  It sometimes gives where the soldier/airman etc came from.  Might be able to narrow it down from there.

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Foreman, McAlpine, Bainbridge - Northumberland
White, Keeley, Golding - Suffolk
Johnson - Staffordshire
Wild, Green, Cusworth - Yorkshire (West Riding)

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Re: Chesterfield Football Player
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 04 October 06 20:31 BST (UK) »
Hello,

Me again.  I've had a quick nosey on www.1837online.com and they have records for 2 E Neve's:
            
NEVE    E    III - London: (West, Central & North London)    
NEVE    EM     III - London: (West, Central & North London).

Following this up on 1837online, 3 men with surname Neve ( E, EM & R) are mentioned and must have been related as the address given for all of them is  8 Williams Place, Chase Side, Enfield.

www.cwgc.org has 1 E W Neve who died 22/09/1917 and served in London Regiment.

www.nationalarchives.gov.uk has the fellow Mack mentioned earlier:

Description     
Medal card of Neve, Edwin   

Corps                             Regiment No          Rank
Royal Garrison Artillery     80636               Bombardier

Date    1914-1920

Catalogue reference    WO 372/14

but will cost £3.50 to download the image of the medal card, and may or may not give much more information than already shown.

Any use? 

Sally
    
Foreman, McAlpine, Bainbridge - Northumberland
White, Keeley, Golding - Suffolk
Johnson - Staffordshire
Wild, Green, Cusworth - Yorkshire (West Riding)