1851 and 1861 Lookup Please - RUDDELL

[ch3eky]

Hi,I have been trying to find the following with no luck.I have a Daniel Ruddell married to a Helen.I have found their marriage 2nd November 1845 at St Dunstans,Stepney.Middlesex.But just cant find them on any census returns.They were born about c1822.I also am having trouble finding Daniels parents.They were Daniel snr born c1799 and his wife Catherine born c1799.They also married at St Dunstans on 14th October 1821.I am really stuck with these two but cant understand why we cant locate them.Many thanks for reading.Best wishes.

['Tricia]

1851

Cottage in Hilly Field Hackney

Daniel Ruddel Head 27  Farm Lab born Hackney
Ellen Ruddel wife  25 born Poplar Middlesex
James Ruddel son 4  born Hackney
Rebecca Ruddel dau 2  born Poplar

 HO107/1505 Folio 479 Page 56

['Tricia]

Did you see the 1851 entry for Catherine Rudel age 60 Widow born Hackney.

Could this be her - do you know when Daniel Senior died?

Tricia

['Tricia]

Do you have access to the census

In 1861 there is a Rebecca Ruddle born 1849 Hanover Sq working as a nurse maid in Chelsea. 
Shout if you need entry

Incorrect - see posting further down


Tricia

[ch3eky]

Hello,Thankyou so much for quick reply and help.No i dont have access to 1861 census at the moment so would be very grateful if someone has.i have no idea when Daniel snr died as yet.This info will certainly help me along now.Thankyou so much.Best wishes.Mary.

['Tricia]

Having trouble with Daniel and Ellen in 1861 but there are parts missing. I'll have another look in a moment now I have found another child


This is

1871

Prince Edward Road Hackney

Daniel Ruddle Head  48 Labourer
Ellen wife 41
Daniel son 16 Rope Maker
George son age 14
Martha dau age 12

All born Hackney

RG10/ 335 Folio 34 Page 62


Tricia

['Tricia]

At last!

1861 - name recorded  on image as Riddle

Victoria Street Hackney

Daniel Head age 35  no occupation recorded
Ellen  wife 32
James son 14
Rebecca dau  12
Daniel son 7 
Martha  dau  2 


All born Hackney

 RG9/ 159 Folio 123 Page 74.

Tricia

[ch3eky]

Hello Tricia.Thankyou so much for all your help.I am so grateful to you.It will enable us to trace the family further now.Many thanks.Mary.

[ChrisRY]

Hi there, I have just started my wifes family tree and have found your posting about Daniel Ruddell.
I have traced her line all the way back and came to Daniel. This is what I have starting with the earliest (this is the same as your findings, how do you fit in the family tree ? are you still a Ruddell or has your name changed over the years by marriages ? )

Daniel Ruddell b1799 d1867 Stepney (died as Ruddle) marr.1821 to Catherine Adam at St Dunstan in Stepney.

Child - Daniel Ruddell b1823 Hackney, d1903 Hackney, marr. 1845 to Ellen Coggin (aka Helen Coggan) she was born in Poplar in 1826 according to the marriage record but was actually born in 1830. In 1881 census she is Eliza (Ellen Elizabeth),she died in 1887 in Hackney age 57. Daniel was a farm labourer at 27 and bricklayer at 58. They lived at Cottage in Hilly Field,Homerton,Hackney in 1851 with their first 2 children James and Rebecca -  Victoria Street,Hackney in 1861 - 5 Prince Edward Road,Hackney in 1871 with his children and 2 grandchildren - 23 Prince Edward Road,Hackney in 1881 with his grandson George from Daniel b1855 - In 1891 he appears to be in the Pancras area - In 1901 in Hackney where he dies in 1903.
Children - James b1847, Rebecca b1849, Daniel b1855, George William b1856 and Martha Ann b1859 all in Hackney.
My wifes line comes down from Daniel b1855 Hackney, d1912 Hackney marr.Margaret Murphy then through their son George William Ruddell/Ruddle b1877 marr Rebecca Stile in 1898 in Poplar and through their child Isabel Patricia Ruddle b1905 in Hackney. Please let me know if you are connected in anyway.Chris