Pesvail?

[alhal]

Allright from the West (Wet?) Midlands ,

I'm new at this lark and am getting frustrated 

I'm researching my GreatGrandmother Caroline Jane LANDRY.

She married my GreatGrandfather James GANDY in Salford 1875 8d/150-Q1.

In 1901 she is shown as aged 46 b. Cornwall, N.K. (Not Known?) and living in Bolton RG13/3614/9/110.

In 1891 she is shown as aged 34 b. Cornwall, Truro and living in New Cross, Manchester RG12/3233/32/42/6098343 next-door-but-one to what would seem to be double relatives Joseph LANDRY (40) (b. Cornwall) and his family which includes his widowed mother Jane LANDRY (75) (b. Cornwall) and his wife (36) who was b. Mary Jane GANDY.

In 1881 she is shown (by Ancestry.co.uk) as aged 27 b. PESVAIL, Cornwall and living in Hapton, nr Burnley, Lancs RG11/4159/92/42/1341997.

So, firstly, can anyone throw any light on the PESVAIL bit? I can find no trace of it and presume it to have been wrongly transcribed. Could it perhaps be Pen.... something, which sounds more Cornish?

Then, secondly, how do I work out what year Caroline was born? Her age seems to fluctuate (which I know is a woman thing - but that doesn't help me). I am loathe to waste money ordering birth certs when the basic info has not been confirmed - I have been caught out that way before.

Regards,

Alhal

PS - Love Cornwall - shame it's such a long drive from the Midlands - can anyone do anything about that?

[irret]

Welcome to Rootschat! 
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com
Birth Caroline Jane Landry
Dec quarter 1855 Redruth 5c 236

[irret]

1871
Jane Landrey head wid 52 Laundress b, Pelynt Cornwall
Ann Landrey daughter 21 invalid b. Sheviock
Richard E son 17 farm lab b. Sheviock
Caroline daughter16 laundress b. Sheviock
William haines lodger 23 smiths lab
William Nichols lodger wid 58 ag lab
Living Villiage Seveock Sheviock Cornwall
Source RG10
Folio 5
Page 3

[saddles]

There is a Pestreath Cove near Redruth, and Redruth is probably the reg district, but I can find no pesvail.

Mike.

[irret]

Carolines mother Jane was born Pelynt Cornwall so that might solve your problem!

[Tati]

There is this 1861 census entry:
RG9/1584 83 20
Camborne, Cornwall
Bray
Willm Landry, head, 44, Copper Miner, b. Lostwithiel?
Jane, wfe, 45, b. do.
Willm H, son, 16, Mine Labourer, b. Feock?
Steph, son, 14, In Dresser, b. do.
Elizth A, dau, 11, b. Gwenap
Joseph, son, 8, scholar, b. do.
Caroline J, dau, 6, scholar, b. Feock
Mary, dau, 2, b. Camborne
Rebeca, dau, 2 weeks, b. do.

But if born Dec 1855 she would be only 5  

oops - the 1871 looks better, I think

[Tati]

Hm. I wonder now.

This is the 1861 entry for the Sheviock family:
RG9/1524 5 4
Sheviock, Cornwall
Jane Landry, head, 41, wid, Laundress, b. Pelept?
Margratt, dau, 19, Laundress, b. Sheviock
Emiline, dau, 14, b. do.
Ann Jane, dau, 11, scholar, b. do.
John C, son, 9, scholar, b. do.
Richard E, son, 7, scholar, b. do.
Mary C, dau, 6, scholar, b. do.

Either Caroline is not at home or she is in fact Mary Caroline...

Going back to 1851, I see the father is called Edward. I think the 1875 marriage cert would certainly be very interesting to see... 
 

[Tati]

I'm struggling to find them in 1871*. I see the Joseph married to Mary J gives his birthplace as Gwenap on the 1901 census.

*Edit - here they are:
1871
RG10/2325 75 28 & 29
Camborne Cornwall
Jane Laundry, mother, wid, 52, b. Lostwithiel
Willm H, son, 26, Surface Lab at Mine, b. Feock
Stepn, son, 24, Tin Miner, b. Feock
Caroline J, dau, 15, Surface Lab at Mine, b. Gwennap
Joseph, son, 18, b. do.
Mary, dau, 13, b. Feock

[ozchook]

Welcome Alhal, Could Pesvail actually be Busveal, which is about one mile south east from Redruth? I looked for towns around Redruth at www.multimap.com
Good luck with your search. Irene