Pesvail?

[irret]

http://www.familysearch.org
Birth Caroline Jane Landry
25 Nov 1855 Feock Cornwall
Parents William Landry/ Jane

[alhal]

Many thanks to irret, saddler, Tati & ozchook for your help.

My gut feeling (IBS ?  ) is that the 1861 Cramborne data id the set to fly with - it shows Caroline Jane's correct forenames & also mother Jane & brother Joseph who ended up as her Lancashire neighbours in 1891.

The 1871 Cramborne data shows her as being born in Gwennap - within a whisker of Busveal, which could conceivably have been wrongly transcribed as Pesvail.

My info from familysearch.org was that she was not born on 25 Nov 1855 but that she was christened then. Also that William & Jane Landry had another daughter with the same forenames who was born on 18 April 1850 and christened on 9 Sep 1850. If this is the same parents, could it be that this child died before my Caroline Jane was born and so she "replaced" her?

It's not easy this genealogy lark, is it. Places of birth and ages seem to be changed on a whim.

We seem to have dredged up 3 different spellings of this surname - Landry, Landrey & Laundry. Could there be any more?

[Tati]

Yes - it seems very likely that they would name another daughter the same as a deceased one.

You were asking for alternative spellings... Here they are in 1851 
HO107/1914 148 18
Gwennap, Cornwall
William Landary, head, 34, Husbandman, b. Duloe?
Jane, wife, 34, b. do.
William H, son, 4, scholar, b. Feock
Stephen, son, 3, b. do.
Caroline J, dau, 11 mo, b. Feock
Elizabeth A, dau, 11mo, b. do.

Seems Caroline J number 1 was a twin... She was registered as Caroline Jane Landery by the way.

I guess the whole family moved to Lancashire at some point. There is a death for a Stephen Landry age 27 registered in Barton upon Irwell June quarter 1874. 
 

[Tati]

Sorry - not all of them moved:
William H in 1881 (I suppose)
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=1957235

This looks like mother Jane in 1881:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=9985134

[Valda]

If you follow Joseph to confirm his birthplace you get from the 1881 and 1901 censuses.

1881 census RG11 3820 folio 90
21 Heaton's House Rumworth  Lancashire  
Joseph Landry  30 Giviney, Cornwall, Head  Married Fireman at cotton factory
Mary J. Landry 26 Manchester, Lancashire, Wife  Married
William H. Gandy  5 Manchester, Lancashire, Nephew  
plus 1 boarder

Marriages Mar 1876
Gandy  Mary Jane    Manchester  8d 205  
Landry  Joseph     Manchester  8d 205  

1901 census RG13 3747 folio 77
7 Gray Street Manchester  Lancashire  
Joseph Landry 48  Gwennap, Cornwall,  Head Married Engineer saw mill
Mary J Landry 46  Manchester, Lancashire,  Wife  Married
James W Landry 19 Bolton, Lancashire,  Son Fireman saw mill

This birthplace for Joseph confirms the two earlier censuses in Camborne.

1851 census HO107 1914 folio 148
Gwennap  Cornwall  
William Landary 34 Duloe, Cornwall, Head Married Husbandman
Jane Landary  34  Duloe, Cornwall,  Wife  Married
William Landary  4  Feock, Cornwall  
Stephen Landary   3 Feock, Cornwall
Caroline J Landary  11mths  Gwennap, Cornwall
Elizabeth A Landary  11mths  Gwennap, Cornwall

Births Jun 1850
Landery  Caroline Jane     Redruth  9 272  
Landery  Elizabeth Ann     Redruth  9 272

possible marriage

Marriages Dec 1843
Landery  William    Truro  9 360  
Libby  Jane     Truro  9 360

as a p.s from my experience with historical records it is men's ages that are the moveable feast. In general woman are much more likely to be more exact about their age. I wouldn't know about modern times. I have no idea whether the stereotype about women's ages is correct.
I once listened to an archivist from The National Archives give a talk and say exactly the same thing.

Regards

Valda

[alhal]

Thanks Tati & Valda for those extra pieces of information.

Trying to get backwards to my antecedants is getting messier. I now seem to have an inordinate number of alternative spellings of the Landry surname -Landary; Lander; Landery; Landra; Landray; Landre; Landree; Landrew; Landrey; Landri; Lantry; Laudrey; Laundery; Laundrey; Laundrie; Laundry; Laundrye; Lawndrie; Lindrey or even Landor.

I think I'll spend some time on the Gandy branch for the time being.

Thanks to everyone for being most helpful

Alhal

[Lannandrey]

Hello Alhal,

Five years long enough? 

Radio silence from you for ever so long. You there? I replied today to your post in
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,218883.msg1338249.html#msg1338249

The Gandy branch you say. My daughter is getting married next summer in Nova Scotia. I tried to engage Bruce Gandy http://www.brucegandymusic.com/ to pipe at her wedding but he'll be competing at the World Masters and the World Pipe Band Championships in Scotland. That's okay, he recommended another piper, who I have engaged.

Hope to hear some *static* from you soon,

Ann

[Lannandrey]

I'm Ann Landrey, I'm 61 years old, very much alive in Toronto Canada and new to rootschat. Having a bit of fun before my eyes cross.

Sheviock, absolutely. I cannot thank Fred Hancock, Sheviock OPC, enough.

1871
Jane Landrey head wid 52 Laundress b, Pelynt Cornwall
Ann Landrey daughter 21 invalid b. Sheviock
Richard E son 17 farm lab b. Sheviock
Caroline daughter16 laundress b. Sheviock
William haines lodger 23 smiths lab
William Nichols lodger wid 58 ag lab
Living Villiage Seveock Sheviock Cornwall
Source RG10
Folio 5
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