I would like to clarify and further amplify Shirldeen's posting. John Hall (b.1797)Clackmannan (d. 17 June 1860), wife Margaret (suspect Thomson)b.1795. They appear together in the 1841 Scotland census with two sons Francis(b.1829) and Rbt Bruce(b.1833). In the 1851 census Francis reappears in Salsburg, Lanarkshire, Scotland lodging with a Marshall family. He immigrated to Canada in 1854. Rbt Bruce reappears in the 1881 British census in Bishopwearmouth, Durham, England with his wife Sarah and two dtrs Mary and Margaret. He was a Master Mariner. Need to cfm John's wife Margaret's family name, date of marriage and her date of death. Finally, it is suspected John and Margaret also had at least one other son, named John. I apologize for this lengthy reply. For Monica - it appears your individuals are not of the right line. Cheers, Golfer. May I suggest that Shirldeen's original posting, and Monica and Golfer's reply's be removed from the Marriage and baptisms/births in Alloa posting as they are unrelated and place them with John Hall - Clackmannanshire. Is it possible to do this?