BOYARD Family

[kiansmom]

Hi, am looking for any information on a Boyard Family. Robert Boyard c1814 according to censuses was born either Mancetter or Atherstone. From his marriage certificate his father was John Boyard a hatmaker.Robert moved to Walsall Staffs sometime before the 1841 census.Not a lot to go on but worth a try

Linda

[jim1]

Hi Linda
Robert Boyard/Ch.22/2/1814/Mancetter/Fa.Robert/Ma.Catherine
Are you sure of your info?
Regards Jim

[jim1]

There were 2 Boyards in Mancetter active at this time,the other being John & Ann so it's possible that John had a son of the same name at about the same time.You may have to search the records at the War.CRO. for both locations.
No much help I know
Jim

[jim1]

A bit of a conundrum
Found this
John Boyard/Ch.22/2/1814/Mancetter/Fa.John/Ma.anne
Both boys christened on the same day.

[Valda]

1861 census RG9 2013 folio 51
3 Upper Rushall Street Walsall Borough  Staffordshire   
Robert Boyard  43 Atherstone, Warwickshire,  Head Widower Locksmith
Eliza Boyard 20  Walsall, Staffordshire,  Daughter 
Henry Cawfield 14 Walsall, Staffordshire, Grandson Locksmith
Ann Boyard  77 Atherston, Warwickshire, Visitor  Widow Silk Ribbon weaver
 
1841 census HO107 983/4 folio 34 page 27
Walsall  Staffordshire   
Ann Boyard 55
Willim Boyard 20  Locksmith
Mary Boyard 20  Staffordshire
Sarah Boyard 10

1851 census HO107 2023 folio 53
Field Gate Walsall Foreign  Staffordshire   
William Boyard  30  Atherstone, Warwickshire,  Head  Married Locksmith
Mary A Boyard  30 Walsall, Staffordshire, Wife  Married Buckle Stitcher

Regards

Valda

[kiansmom]

Thanks both, I have Robert on census from 1841 to 1881 (1891 a mystery as he didn't die till 1900, waiting for cert to arrive) he has been very badly minstranscribed sometimes

he Married Lucy Corfiled 1838 he says he is 21 and father John Boyard Hatmaker

he marries again in 1867 aged 48 and a widow Father John Boyard Hatter

most of the censuses say he was born Atherstone but can't find a John Boyard that would fit


Linda x

[Valda]

If the Ann of the 1841 census was Robert's mother, then it is very likely John was dead by the 1841 census. There was no requirement on marriage certificates to state whether your father was deceased or not (there is no question on the certificate for it). It was a very hit and miss affair, whether it is stated or not. If it wasn't stated, this is not evidence that the person's father was still alive.

May be Jim can give the other baptisms in Mancetter for John and Ann Boyard to see the names of their other children. If not you can search for William's marriage to see if he gives the same father's details as Robert.

Regards

Valda

[kiansmom]

Thanks Valda, i will see if I can find Williams marriage and order cert for that

Linda x

[jim1]

These are the Mancetter births at that time:
John & Ann Boyard:
Edeth/12/2/1810
John/24/1/1814(discrepancy with IGI main site)
William/Ch.25/7/1819
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Robert & Catherine:
Eliza/29/1/1810
Ann/7/1/1812
Robert/22/2/1814
Sarah/21/10/1818
Atherstone was at this time part of the Mancetter Parish and no records exsist prior to 1825.
Jim