Illegitimate birth

[katherinem]

Hi, wow Valda and John, you have both come up with some great info.

I have had a quick look on Scotlandspeople, there is a Joseph Wigglesworth, the right age on the 1901 Scottish census, but I have no credits left to have a look, and it was on the Glasgow County District.

Couldn't see anything for Lizzie and various combinations, but as you cannot display names it is hard to find.  Altogether there are eight Wigglesworth's on the 1901 Scottish census.  Hopefully as Valda has suggested, someone maybe able to a lookup for you.

Kath

[Silas]

Heck - there was a family rumour that he was a SCOT !!  So perhaps that is true.  How can I find out?  Forgot to say, but am not very experienced at all this research, so hopefully you may be able to advise how I can find out if he came originally from Glasgow.

Silas

[Valda]

Request a look up on one of the Rootschat Scottish boards. It would be more likely to be spotted there than 3 pages in on in this thread in Yorkshire.

If you want link it to this thread - so others can see why you are interested.

The two Lizzies were Scottish the Joseph with them was English.

Regards

Valda

Scotland General request now posted:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=193105.msg953579#msg953579

[katherinem]

Just been poking about again at www.scotlandspeople.co.uk and there is a marriage registration for a Joseph Wigglesworth in 1900 again Glasgow.  It couldn't  be, could it..........................

Kath

[Silas]

Katherine - I'm getting confused here !!  How many marriages has he had then?

Silas

[johnnyboy]

Hello all again: Not sure if this explains anything. But on the manifest, Joseph's "nationality" is described as English. The column heading actually reads "Nationality (Country of which citizen or subject.)" Plus, there is the 1873 birth in Castleford.  I think that eliminates him as a Scot by birth, but perhaps not by adoption, i.e., running off north of the border before emigrating to the U.S.

Since Joseph the New Jersey bricklayer says he naturalized in 1919, it might be worth seeing where New Jersey naturalizations are held. I'll have a look.

John


P.S. By my count he might have had three marriages, no?

P.P.S. Silas, if you PM me with an e-mail address, I'll get the manifests to you.

[katherinem]

Katherine - I'm getting confused here !! How many marriages has he had then?

Silas

I was wondering if this could be to Lizzie, albeit bigamously

[johnnyboy]

I'm a johnnyboy come lately to this topic, so I do correct my marriage count. He seems to have married twice. To Lizzie in Scotland and then to Julia in New York State or New Jersey (Bergenfield, incidentally, is a close suburb of New York City).  He might not have been bigamist, though I wouldn't put that past him. He might have divorced before marrying Julia. There is an online grooms index for New York City. Let me check that. Back in a few. 

John

[Silas]

Oh heck, this is getting interesting and I have to go off-line for a while, can't be avoided,  Be back as soon as poss though.  Have pm'd you Johnnyboy.

Silas