Illegitimate birth

[Silas]

Yes David, I have thoroughly enjoyed this particular part of my genealogy search. It came as a bit of a shock though! Yes, the folk on this site are great, they really are!  Have sent you a personal message.

Silas.

[sabrina]

If Ellen died in Australia her records would probably have her parents on the death record (if the informant knew them and gave them to the Government.).  In Queensland the death records are on the net I think up till 1964, and the parents are mentioned if given.  In other states you might have to buy a certificate.

sabrina

[Silas]

Thanks Sabrina.  Ellen's parentage has already been established - mother, Fanny Clarkson and father, Joseph Wigglesworth (Fanny's brother-in-law).  Thank you though.

[hmpollard]

Hi all,

I just noticed multiple replies to this thread, I haven't checked it in a while.

Silas, I am very interested in contacting Ellen's descendants also.  Please message me if you are willing to share.  Thanks.  I still have not heard from my grandmother's sister, the only surviving child of Joseph.  Perhaps if I had some contact information, I could write to her again.

I have photos of Richard and Sarah's gravesite.  The are in Castleford New Cemetery.

And hi Erika!  I have been meaning to reply to your message on ancestry...  Just need to find the time.

Heather

[Silas]

Have sent you a personal message Heather.

[smiley56]

Hi Silas and Heather,
Thanks for your messages.As I said to Heather Silas, it is so great to see how collectively people can assist one another with these family searches.I always feel so in awe of those of you who have the investigative work down pat!! I am just a newbie and still learning the ropes, so I wonder how much you longtime genealogists realise you are teaching us through the process.Thanks immensley for taking the time.As I mentioned, I have an image of the death certificate for Ellen Stannard.Am more than willing to pass it on to anyone who is interested, though I repeat it is only an image and not an original.For those interested you can download images or original certificates for a fee approx 18.50 Australian for the image and I think it is abt 28.00 for the original online at our Public Records Office, Victoria, Australia.(Hope I am allowed to say all that?)You will however need to submit credit card information.I have done this securely many times before with excellent results.When you come across  a correct image in a family search, it certainly enables you to follow through and secure the image straight away, which is most exciting.The image that I have  for Ellen Stannard states- Unknown Wrigglesworth (obviously mispelt) for fathers name and Fanny Wrigglesworth, maiden name-Clarkson for mother, occupation given as unknown.Those who are interested just PM me. Glad to see Silas that everyones efforts in solving this puzzle have enabled you to contact some more rellies.To me that is the ultimate, positive result. Heather I would be interested in those photos of Richards and sarah's graves if it isn't too much trouble.David, I have quite a few Gledhill relatives in Castleford that I am trying to get info on.Are you in a position to help me with a few details at all?Cheers. Erika

[onefortheroad]

Hi Erika.

I know a few Gledhills in Casleford myself - unsavoury bunch 

Yes if you let me have what details you can, I'll look them up in the burial/cremation records. If I can find a grave, I'll photo it and email it to you.

Regards, David

[hnmpollard]

This is a very old thread but I recently found an article from the Dundee Courier, 19 Dec 1898, about Joseph Wigglesworth and his marital problems with Emily Clarkson. No mention of a child with her sister, but an interesting side to the story nonetheless.

[hnmpollard]

This article was under the heading "Divorce Cases", so I am glad to see that he was actually granted a divorce.

(I don't have my old email address so I had to re-register. -Heather)