Gardiner/Gardner

[Lemmey]

Thanks Rambler 

Woooo hoooooo I've inter'met' a 3rd cousin once removed.

This is my first 'distant-relation-through-family-history' find   

[chellin2]

Just want to say thanks to everyone that helped in finding the Gardner family, if it had not been for you all I wouldnt have found my CUZ haha

Thanks a million

Chellin

[missjano]

Little Wrythe Lane, 1 St James Rd, Carshalton

Lematamia Gardner 1864 married Josiah Smith in 1882.
Lematamia Gardner sister, Elizabeth Gardner, 1857,  married Henry Penfold in 1872.

Henry & Elizabeth Penfold (nee Gardner) are my husbands 2nd Great Grandfather and Mother.

There daughter Mary Ann Penfold married John Smith in 1894.
Mary Ann Penfold and John Smith were my husbands Great Grand Parents.

There were a lot of families who married each other.

Lematamia Gardner 1864, who married Josiah Smith (above)  was also John Smiths older brother, therefore making Josiah & Lemantamia my Great-Grand Uncle & Aunt.

The parents of Josiah & John Smith were Josiah & Alice Smith.

[chellin2]

Hi Missjano

Well that is very very interesting, I didnt know about the inter marriage thing, so we are related too, How did you get this information???
I know that Josiah Smith 1862 had parents called Josiah Smith and Alice Lane born 1836 but I have got no further back than that, have you???  I have their children as Alice, Fred, Josiah, William, John Phoebe and Nelson.
So that makes my great grandparents, your husbands great uncle and aunt so my Nan was your hubands Nans cousin is that right,  Anyway welcome to my family.
Please keep in touch, by the way what is your surname now??

Chellin2

[Lemmey]

Little Wrythe Lane, 1 St James Rd, Carshalton

Lematamia Gardner sister, Elizabeth Gardner, 1857,  married Henry Penfold in 1872.

Henry & Elizabeth Penfold (nee Gardner) are my husbands 2nd Great Grandfather and Mother.

Hi from me too missjano

Elizabeth Penfold nee Gardner was the sister of my Great great Grandad Noah Gardner.  I have her as 1855/1857 (dependant on source) also listed as Betsey and Lizzie on census depending on which one.  I assume you know she was the daughter of Mary Ann (1827/1831) and John Gardner (dob unknown to me) and Henry & Elizabeth's children were Henry/Harry, Mary Ann, Jane, Ada, Joe/Joey, Nelly & Priscilla as I found a lot of that care of the 1881 census (Little Wrythe Lane where the Penfolds lived with Mary Ann Gardner and her other children).  At that time Noah Gardner (my G G grandfather) lived at Levitts Rents, The Wrythe (so assume close by).

Chellin and I have got together to exchange information via email.  Please pm either of us if you are interested in joining.

[sarah_jane]

This maybe no use but i have Gardiner's/Gardner/Gardener in mitcham, I have a Noah gardiner was born in 1895 in a tent on mitcham common, the family were all from mitcham and were all romany's we were also related to the smith's. I know this all a long shot but i wondered if there were any connection?

[missjano]

This maybe no use but i have Gardiner's/Gardner/Gardener in mitcham, I have a Noah gardiner was born in 1895 in a tent on mitcham common, the family were all from mitcham and were all romany's we were also related to the smith's. I know this all a long shot but i wondered if there were any connection?

Yes, they are all related. Check out the 1891 census
1891
RG12/602; Folio 84; Page 51

The Josiah Smith 1833 was Great Great Grandfather. Mary Anne Lane was 3rd Great Grandmother.  William Lane was her husband, and also Alice Smiths Father.

They are all related to one and other. Smiths/Penfolds/Gardners/Lanes etc.

You will probably hear from a couple of ladies, Lemmy & Chellin, who also have a great interest in these families.

[Lemmey]

This maybe no use but i have Gardiner's/Gardner/Gardener in mitcham, I have a Noah gardiner was born in 1895 in a tent on mitcham common, the family were all from mitcham and were all romany's we were also related to the smith's. I know this all a long shot but i wondered if there were any connection?

Hello Sarah

Not a long shot at all - As Missjano has just said she, Chellin and I have all found, thanks to Rootschat ( thanks Rootschat) we are all distantly related through Mary Ann Gardner (c. 1827).

We exchange information via email and, if the others agree, you are more than welcome to join.  We've gathered quite a bit about the Gardners/Smiths/Penfolds/Lanes of Surrey/Kent (oh and I've just started on the Dallaways/Dellaways/Dilloways). 

If you are interested pm me and I'll give you my email address.

Lemmey
(who borrowed her name from her g. grandmother Lemintinia Gardner )

[chellin2]

Hello Sarah

Nice to hear from another long lost relative.
The date of your Noah Gardner does not fit in with mine but there were a few Noahs so maybe its another one.  I have Mary Ann Gardner who had a son Noah but I have his date as 1851, he had a sister Lemantamia who was my great grandmother 1865.  She married into the Smiths.
Mary Ann ( my great great grandmother) did marry again we have found out to William Lane but that was later on in life.
Please pm Lemmy or me and we can exchange info.