Gardiner/Gardner

[Manchester Rambler]

Here's a family to consider for 1871 - unfortunately lots of initials, rather than full names, but "N" could be Noah.

RG10/796; Folio 22 Page: 36
William St, Carshalton

Mary A Gardner - Head - Wid - 44 - Hawker - b. Deal, Kent
N Gardner - Son - 20 - Labourer - b. Som Wells, Kent (?)
Thos Gardner - Son - 18 - Sieve Maker - b. Hadlow, Kent
E Gardner - Dau - 14 - Sieve Maker - b. Essex
Wm Gardner - Son - 11 - Scholar - b. Essex
Geo Gardner - Son - 9 - Scholar - b. Croydon, Surrey
L Gardner - Dau - 7- Scholar - b. Carshalton
Jane Gardner - Dau - 5 - b. Carshalton
Ada Gardner - Dau - 5m - b. Carshalton
M Harn(?) - Visitor - 39 - Sieve Maker - b. Maugey, Suffolk
Ed Harn - Son - 7 - Scholar - b. Brentford, Middlesex

In 1881, Mary Ann and the younger children are at Little Wrythe Lane, 1 St James Rd, Carshalton, living with a PENFOLD family.  (MA's birthplace now Croydon!)

Rambler

[casalguidi]

L Gardner - Dau - 7- Scholar - b. Carshalton

The aforementioned Lemintina birth registered 1864 - Lemantane baptised 6 Mar 1864 Carshalton dau of John and Mary Ann GARDENER

http://www.familysearch.org

Casalguidi

[Manchester Rambler]

She'd fit, wouldn't she?   On the 1881 census she's Lena, which is close enough, given the unusual name! 

Edited: IGI lists siblings Jane Bridget (1867) and Ada (1870) also christened at Carshalton, so a definite match, I think.

Rambler

[Lemmey]

Thanks Manchester Rambler    Much appreciated

and thanks again to Casalguidi

I think I've got a fair bit there now to work on   

[chellin2]

Hi there

This is my first time on here and I think we might be related.  My great grandmother was Lemantamia or Lemantina Gardner and was born in Carshalton in or about 1865.  She was my grandmothers mother and signed her birthcertificate with a X.  I have got no further with my research on her so any information would be much appreciated.  Were they travellers or gypsies do you know
Chellin 2
PS I also had an Aunt Lementina or Lemmy as we called her

[Lemmey]

Hi there

This is my first time on here and I think we might be related.  My great grandmother was Lemantamia or Lemantina Gardner and was born in Carshalton in or about 1865.  She was my grandmothers mother and signed her birthcertificate with a X.  I have got no further with my research on her so any information would be much appreciated.  Were they travellers or gypsies do you know
Chellin 2
PS I also had an Aunt Lementina or Lemmy as we called her

Hi Chellin

With such an unusual name and those dates we may well be.  Yes my Lemmy/Leamantinia Gardner was Romany/traveller according to my research.  She also had an aunt Lemintinia, sister of her father.

I have quite a bit of information on my side of the family.   Thanks for posting.   I am about to pm you!

[chellin2]

Hi Lemmy

So nice to hear from and you and yes we are related.

Your Lemmy born in 1865 is my great grandmother.

This is great

Chellin

[Lemmey]

Maybe we should find the appropriate forum on here to ask someone to work out the relationship between chellin and I - third cousins/fourth cousins or whatever 

Basically my great grandmother's father's sister is Chellin's greatgrandmother. 

Thanks RootsChat    and thanks to Casalguidi and Manchester Rambler 

[Manchester Rambler]

3rd cousins once removed!

Rambler