Look up (1851- 1891) Census or Advice Plz - SCHMALCALDER

[itwoznotme]

I am looking into the Family of Schmalcalder- Smallcalder, there is a female that I would love to have some more info on;

Lucy Schmalcalder- Smallcalder Born 1847 in The Strand, Tottenham, Bourough Of Middlesex, (Pancras).

She had two sons one was born in the strand union workhouse 1871, the other 1869 the Strand, baptism records give an address as 5 Longs street, not sure were that is. she died 1874, Highgate Infirmary, any info would be gratefully received, so would any other info related to the Schmalcalders-Smallcalders

very best

[carol8353]

Can't find any Smallcalders on the censuses but did find a list of BMD's don;t know if you can piece any of these together.If you find any you are interested in let me know and I'll see if I can find anymore info.
There are also a few deaths from 1983-2002.
 
Smallcalder, Holly Sylvia 1906 December Edmonton Essex Hertfordshire Middlesex 3a 522
Smallcalder, Ivy 1896 December Edmonton Essex Hertfordshire Middlesex 3a 366
Smallcalder, Lucy 1874 December Pancras London Middlesex 1b 133
Smallcalder, Reginald W 1900 March Edmonton Essex Hertfordshire Middlesex 3a 451
Smallcalder, Reginald W 1900 September Edmonton Essex Hertfordshire Middlesex 3a 248
Smallcalder, Sylvia Louise 1894 December Rhayader Breconshire Radnorshire 11b 123
Smallcalder, Victor 1894 March Swansea Glamorgan West Glamorgan 11a 1098
Smallcalder, Victor Charles 1896 September Sheffield South Yorkshire West Riding of Yorkshire 9c 569
Smallcalder, William 1871 June Pancras London Middlesex 1b 52
Smallcalder, William 1895 December Edmonton Essex Hertfordshire Middlesex 3a 555
 

[itwoznotme]

Hello Carol,

Most of the people listed started off as Schmalcalder, the name changed late 1870's to Smallcalder, most of the family at the time were in the Queens Own Hussars or British Navy, I spose it was changed for obvious reasons, I'm mainly interested in the women side of the family, most of the men I have been able to track down Lucy is of main interest,
she was born a Schmalcalder but died a Smallcalder 1874,

so it is an akward one, coz' pre 1900 you are looking for Schmalcalder or Smallcalder

thx for your reply

[carol8353]

And then there's these !!! And also a couple of births and marriages from the Pallotts index- any good?

SCHMALCALDER, Charles Augustus 1843 December St Martin in the Fields London Middlesex 1 124
SCHMALCALDER, Elizabeth 1860 December St Martin in the Fields London Middlesex 1a 324
Schmalcalder, Emily 1853 March St Martin in the Fields London Middlesex 1a 277
SCHMALCALDER, Emily 1879 June Strand London Middlesex 1b 954
Schmalcalder, Emma Jane 1870 December Strand London Middlesex 1b 538
SCHMALCALDER, Emma Janet 1841 September St Martin in the Fields London Middlesex 1 88
SCHMALCALDER, Emma Nanmachise 1839 December St Martin in the Fields London Middlesex 1 102
Schmalcalder, George 1852 March St George Southwark London Surrey 1d 131
Schmalcalder, George 1858 June St Luke London Middlesex 1b 348
Schmalcalder, Jane 1867 March Strand London Middlesex 1b 408
SCHMALCALDER, Jane 1868 March St Martin in the Fields London Middlesex 1a 308
Schmalcalder, Jane 1874 March Strand London Middlesex 1b 391
SCHMALCALDER, John 1885 June Strand London Middlesex 1b 407
Schmalcalder, John 1892 March Pancras London Middlesex 1b 21
Schmalcalder, Lucy Elizabeth 1847 September Pancras London Middlesex 1 306

[PaulineJ]

1861: Piece 56 Folio 60b

8 1/2 Monmouth Court by the looks of it. (St Martins)

Schmalcalder  Elizabeth  under 6 Months 
Schmalcalder  Emily  8  scholar
Schmalcalder  Emma  19  Genearal Servant weekly employ
Schmalcalder  Jane  10  scholar
Schmalcalder  Jane  45  (laundress)
Schmalcalder  John  16  (Blind, b St Margaret's W/minster)
Schmalcalder  John  49 
Schmalcalder  Lucy  13  (Gen Servant b St Pancras)
Schmalcalder  William  3.1/2  Scholar

John the father is a
"Repairer of Mathematical Instruments (and another 4/5 words)

Everyone except those above were b St Martins

Pauline

[PaulineJ]

1871: Try Rg10/358 Page 24 folio 51

Elizabeth Smechelder 9  London, Middlesex, England Daughter  St Martin in the Fields  London   
Emily Smechelder 17  London, Middlesex, England Daughter  St Martin in the Fields  London   
Jane Smechelder 55  London, Middlesex, England Head  St Martin in the Fields  London   
Victor Smechelder 1  London, Middlesex, England Son  St Martin in the Fields  London   
William Smechelder 14  London, Middlesex, England Son  St Martin in the Fields  London   

Address 24? St Martin Street.
Jane is a Laundress, Emily a Servant, William& Elizabeth Are Scholars.

Would Victor be Lucy's 1869 Child?


Pauline

[PaulineJ]

Possibly John, but this one is not marked as Blind. he is a Carman.

Elizabeth Schmalealder 30  London, England Wife  St Martin in the Fields  London   
Emma Schmalealder 6 months  London, England Daughter  St Martin in the Fields  London   
John Schmalealder 27  London, England Head  St Martin in the Fields  London   
John Schmalealder 2  London, England Son  St Martin in the Fields  London   

6 Hutton/Sutton Court, St Martin in the Fields 
RG10/353 Folio 12 

[itwoznotme]

1871: Try Rg10/358 Page 24 folio 51

Elizabeth Smechelder 9  London, Middlesex, England Daughter  St Martin in the Fields  London   
Emily Smechelder 17  London, Middlesex, England Daughter  St Martin in the Fields  London   
Jane Smechelder 55  London, Middlesex, England Head  St Martin in the Fields  London   
Victor Smechelder 1  London, Middlesex, England Son  St Martin in the Fields  London   
William Smechelder 14  London, Middlesex, England Son  St Martin in the Fields  London   

Address 24? St Martin Street.
Jane is a Laundress, Emily a Servant, William& Elizabeth Are Scholars.

Would Victor be Lucy's 1869 Child?


Hello Everyone,
Thx for all your interest and searching, fascinating information.

I beleive all the familys mentioned are of the same surname, some of the addresses I have correspond to them.

As to the child Victor I think this was Lucy Son because Jane was Lucy's Mum, maybe she was baby sitting at time, her Husband John had died in 1862. I Have Victor birth Certificate 1869,
Lucy is Mum, father unknown.
Weird that Jane has listed him as Son?

The other family mentioned Schmalealder, John the (carmen) was a son of Jane Schmalcalder, he had a few children as listed.

Going back to Lucy I would Imaging She was heavily pregnant with another son William born May 29th 1871, if she was a servent might she still be in living quarters at the residence were she worked, this would lead to a complicated situation with the Censuses, she died three years later in 1874 also her mum Jane
died the same year, leaving most of the family to tough it out.
The boys ended up in Strand Union Work House, were Victor and William stayed in house for most of 12 years, they both lived till the ages of 88 & 86 died the same year 1958, strange.

any way thx once again, the more information hopefully I can piece more of this family together,

I know I am being a bit cheeky but from the late 1870's is there any mention of Smallcalder in any of the Censuses 1891 mainly

Thanx once again

steve

[carol8353]

All this is is the ref number of her death-which I expect you already have?

Smallcalder, Lucy aged 26
December  1874
Pancras  Volume 1b  Page 133 

Sorry couldn't find anything else- but I'll bear you in mind incase I come across the name again.

There are 6 Smallcalder families on the 2002 electoral roll.
A large one in Bournemouth.

Hope this helps in someway,

Carol