question to any Cumbria experts out there

[boroboy135]

Thanks Bob I'll check that out

Joe A

[GeoffE]

There are also (Wilfred) LAWSON links with Isel Hall http://www.aboutbritain.com/IselHall.htm

[bobgraham]

But it also means that the family are there in the bishops transcripts for aspatria and a full copy of these is in Carlisle archives (lot easier than trying to read the parish records) so all you need now is SKS to nip down there with an afternoon to spare and you would soon be back to 1770. Unfortunately I've moved out of Carlisle - not far- and have a full time job or I would do it for you.
bob

[boroboy135]

Hmm!! Wonder if they have overnight flights from Atlanta to Carlisle or does it mean I have to go thru Manchester?
I'll have to see if my cousin in Newcastle or my favorite brother in the boro will help me out.

Joe A

[boroboy135]

Thanks Geoff

Quite a bit there about the Lawsons.

Joe A

[GeoffE]

Thanks Geoff

Quite a bit there about the Lawsons.

Joe A

I actually went round Isel Hall in 1991.  The present owner was a college friend of my mother-in-law.  Last time I visited M-i-L, she produced an Isel Hall booklet which contained a chart of (I think) the occupiers of the hall.

Incidentally, on the link I gave, the stone carving of the sun being held aloft represents the "arms of the LAW" holding the SUN - some sort of historic jest based on the name LAWSON. 

I see this website mentions the booklet, so you may be able to get one if you think it worthwhile
http://www.cockermouth.org.uk/dms-showpage.php?tid=537

[boroboy135]

Wow, that's really great. I wonder if there is a family tree for the 'old' Lawson family somewhere. Of course I'm sure that my ancestor, Sarah Lawson, was disowned by the family when she eloped to Gretna Green with John Cockburn.
Still it's all very interesting family history to pass on.

[PeterLS]

I am just starting with my family tree and have enrolled for night school this spring to learn more. I think that my great grand mother Ruth Lawson was divorced form Sir George Erskine and married my great grandfather. She was Sir Wilfred Lawson's daughter and lived in Brayton Hall. She was born about 1843 and her first marriage was in 1869 She remarried in 1877. As the Lawsons changed name from Wyberg and the Baronetcy moved sideways I am struggling !  Can anyone help me find Ruth my grandmother's details please?

[GeoffE]

Hi PeterLS, welcome to Rootschat

I'm rather puzzled by this one - looking at Wilfred LAWSON and his wife Caroline in the 1851 census, they were aged 55 and 57 then and their youngest child was aged 12.  No Ruth

There were a few Ruth LAWSONs born in Cumb in the 1840s

One (in Maryport) had a father Thomas who was a labourer.

Another had a father Robert (b 1808) who was a solicitor.

Yet another had a father Robert who was a Builder.

Finally, one was stepdaughter of a Cowkeeper.

I can find a possible marriage in 1867 of a Ruth LAWSON to a John Henry ERSKINE, they were in Co Durham in 1871.  John Henry was an Engine Driver at an Ironworks, not a knight of the realm.

Ruth was apparently married to a George SMITH in 1881, he was born about 1844 in Stourbridge.  John Henry ERSKINE had died in 1872 and she married George SMITH in 1873.  This appears to be the only Ruth ERSKINE marriage in the 1870s.

Finally, in 1891, Ruth gives her birthplace - Maryport - suggesting that she was Tom the Labourer's daughter.

I realise that none of this is in agreement with what you said.  Please don't dismiss it out of hand.  Of course, if you have nothing to do with the SMITHs, I am on the wrong track.