Richard & Elizabeth COULDERY - Greenwich & Deptford

[avm228]

Also, could someone lookup the niece, Elizabeth FAY in 1851 please?

She actually looks to me to be Elizabeth FRY in 1861, and indeed is transcribed as such.  I'm not finding her easily in 1851, but here's a birth:

Elizabeth FRY Jun 1847 Greenwich vol 5 p 216.

HTH 

Anna

[Valda]

I checked the actual 1881 census image itself otherwise I wouldn't have written it as Couldrey.

Watkins as a surname is one of the more common in this country and though Esther was at the same address she was living in a different household. Quite small houses could be subdivided into a surprising number of households. There is no reason to suspect Esther was in anyway related to the Richard Couldery just because she was a close neighbour

Rebecca Couldery the wife of Joseph Couldery born Greenwich circa 1850 was according to the 1891 census, when the couple were in Rye, born Westerham Kent circa 1854. On the 1861 census she was in Westerham with her parents and siblings. Father William F. Watkins gave his birthplace as Westerham circa 1809. Mother Ann was born in Yorkshire in circa 1811.

Joseph Couldery was in Greenwich on the 1851 census with his parents William born circa 1822 in Lewisham (though I appreciate his baptism was in Greenwich to Robert and Charlotte - he is consistent on the 1861 census with a birthplace of Lewisham) and Jane born circa 1816 Witney Oxfordshire. William was a butcher.

William was with Robert on the 1841 census in Lewisham. Robert was also a butcher and aged 61. He was lodging alone in Greenwich on the 1851 census and gave his birthplace as Greenwich.

Regards

Valda

[sunny]

The George helyar, 30 of Bridport is my George Helyar.  he and wife Mary Ann nee Morley Married St James Westminster. If anyone is related to him I would love to here from you. He was definitly living Hereford place.

[sunny]

The George helyar, 30 of Bridport is my George Helyar.  he and wife Mary Ann nee Morley Married St James Westminster. If anyone is related to him I would love to here from you. He was definitly living Hereford place.
Oh yes.......My dad remembers Colin Cowdrey, the English Spin bowler (cricket)......I have no idea how he knew him. We lived in Kent and Colin C played for Kent. perhaps coincidence.
Life is full of them
Cheers Pam Hillier

[Bumblemum]

Hello,
I just stumbled across this thread and thought I would pass on this little bit of information. I have a Elizabeth Couldery in my tree, married to Thomas Larking. The marriage took place in Charlton, Kent in 1839. Elizabeth is down as of full age and a spinster. Her fathers name is Richard Couldery, a butcher. They had eight children.
In the 1841 census they are living in Greenwich and have a son Thomas 1yr old. Living with them is Frederick Couldery age 16. probably Elizabeths brother. They are all ticked born in County. In the 1851 census Frederick is a visitor at Blackheath Hill, Greenwich age 26 and a Butcher. In 1871 Frederick is married to Rosina and still in Blackheath Hill, although now he is the Head of family, there are no children. In 1851 Richard Couldery appears as a witness on the marriage certificate of Edward Larking, my g.g.grandfather.
Hope this is of some help
Bumblemum

[Chesvilla]

I just did a google search for Couldery and Greenwich and spotted this thread. I have a Susannah Couldery in my tree. born about 1832, her father was Richard Couldery a butcher. She appears at the Royal Hospital School in Greenwich on the 1841 census. She married James Larking in 1850 and then Charles Joseph Austin in 1859. I too found the Susannah mentioned above, but the dates seem  wrong. I also found the will of a William Couldery, also a butcher who died in Greenwich in 1844. His widow was Ann. If anyone has any info on Susannah or Richard I'd be really grateful.
thanks   

[Bumblemum]

Do you have the marriage certificate for Susannah Couldery and James Larking. I have an Elizabeth Couldery in my tree, married to Thomas Larking. Thomas's father is also called Thomas and is a butcher and Elizabeth is a spinster of full age, father Richard Couldery, a butcher. They were married in 1839 in Charlton. My Larkings all come from Greenwich.  It sounds like two sisters marrying two brothers although as yet I haven't  got James in my tree. If you have the marriage cert it could show the same father. The witnesses on Thomas and Elizabeth's marriage cert are George & Elisa Knight, do these names mean anything to you.
Not a lot of help to you really, but could be another piece of the puzzle.

Bumblemum

[Chesvilla]

I have the marriage certificate for Susannah Larking, Nee Couldery and Joseph Charles Austin. They were married in Deptford St Nicholas on 23/4/1859. Susannah is shown as a widow and her father was Richard Couldery, butcher. I believe she was born in about 1832 in Greenwich. There is a christening of a Susannah Couldery at St Alphege, Greenwich in November 1837, although the birth is listed as 26th March 1827 which seems too early. The parents are Richard and Elizabeth Couldery. Susannah appears on the 1841 census as a charity girl at the Royal Hospital School Greenwich. I believe she married James Larking in 1850 in Lewisham (there is a bmd entry which fits, although I don't have the certificate). They had two children James (b. 1851) and Annie (b. 1854). Presumably James died some time after 1853. I have had a look at the admission records for the Royal Hospital School and can't find her so it seems likely that she was in the workhouse side of it, rather than the naval side (as her father wasn't in the navy). I can't trace Richard and ELizabeth in 1841 so I don't know whether they were already dead, or have been transcribed wrongly on Ancestry (quite likely!). I would be grateful for any other info on the Couldery's. Susannah was my G. G. Grandmother.   

[Bumblemum]

Just found a Susannah Larking in the 1851 census, transcribed as Susannah Sarking.

3? Conduit Terrace, Greenwich
Susannah Larking, wife, married, 23, mariners wife, b.Greenwich

Ref. H.O.107/1587

So we can now say she was born 1827 rather than 1837