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Lupinsky to Woolf to Baker!
« on: Saturday 05 August 06 19:25 BST (UK) »
Hi

We have worked back from my husband's grandmother, Baker (still alive) and know that her father was married to Emily Winn in 1907 using the name Woolf.  We have the marriage certificate showing Phillip was 27 and a tailor - father was Abraham Woolf, Tailor.  We now believe that Phillip Woolf was actually born Phillip Lupinsky (lupine - of the wolf?!) to Abraham and Rebecca Lupinsky.

Abraham came from Poland and as we can't find him prior to 1871, presume he came to England shortly before this.  Rebecca was born in London.   Their children were Sarah 1866, Joshua 1868, Barron 1870 (died 1871), Abraham 1875 and Phillip 1879.

Rose believes that the name change to Baker came after Phillip's marriage due to pressure from the Winn family (non-Jews), so it was possibly only Phillip that became Baker.

A few requests :-   can anyone give direction as to where we might find information on the family prior to their arrival in England.

Can anyone find a marriage between Abraham Lupinsky and Rebecca?

Can anyone find Phillip Lupinsky/Woolf/Baker or any of the rest of the family in 1901.  The last sighting was 1891 - RG12/235 f120 p1.

Many thanks.
Tracy

Judd - Warwickshire
DESLONGRAIS  - MAURITIUS/WALES/WARWICKSHIRE
Durand-Deslongrais - Mauritius/France
Neboden - Mauritius/France
Marks - Staffs/Warwicks
Menday, Lynch, French, Wright - Bermondsey/Southwark
Pett, Lowe, Kelly, Woolf, Baker, Winn, Wilkinson - North London
Tiplady - Bedfordshire

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Re: Lupinsky to Woolf to Baker!
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 05 August 06 20:09 BST (UK) »
Possible marriage:

Marriages Sep 1863

EMANUEL    Lewis       
LEWIS    Rebecca        
LUPINSKY   Abraham   
     
SALOMONS   Julia        

London City 1c 277

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ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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Re: Lupinsky to Woolf to Baker!
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 05 August 06 20:16 BST (UK) »
Hi Rambler

Fantastic - thank you.  Don't know why I couldn't find it ???

I will have a look for Rebecca on 1861 now.

Many thanks.
Tracy :)
Judd - Warwickshire
DESLONGRAIS  - MAURITIUS/WALES/WARWICKSHIRE
Durand-Deslongrais - Mauritius/France
Neboden - Mauritius/France
Marks - Staffs/Warwicks
Menday, Lynch, French, Wright - Bermondsey/Southwark
Pett, Lowe, Kelly, Woolf, Baker, Winn, Wilkinson - North London
Tiplady - Bedfordshire

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Re: Lupinsky to Woolf to Baker!
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 05 August 06 21:13 BST (UK) »
I have found Rebecca Lewis on both 1861 and 1851 but no luck with the family in 1841. 

1861 is RG9/210 f76 p52.
1851 is HO107/1543 f515 p23.

Any help with 1841 would be appreciated :)

Tracy
Judd - Warwickshire
DESLONGRAIS  - MAURITIUS/WALES/WARWICKSHIRE
Durand-Deslongrais - Mauritius/France
Neboden - Mauritius/France
Marks - Staffs/Warwicks
Menday, Lynch, French, Wright - Bermondsey/Southwark
Pett, Lowe, Kelly, Woolf, Baker, Winn, Wilkinson - North London
Tiplady - Bedfordshire


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Re: Lupinsky to Woolf to Baker!
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 10 April 10 02:52 BST (UK) »
My great great grandparents were named Abraham and Rebecca Lupinsky. It would be amazing if they were the same people you are researching.  Here is what I know...

Abraham Lupinsky (deceased) 
Immediate Family: Husband of Rebecca
Father of Rose (Bud), Molly, Jack, Rachael and Fanny

The only detail that I know is about Rose: born May 15, 1897 
Death: February, 1979 (81)  in Philadelphia


 

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Re: Lupinsky to Woolf to Baker!
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 10 April 10 13:45 BST (UK) »
Hi Laura and welcome to Rootschat Jamienet  :)

It would appear that Philip Lupinsky is not the same as Phillip Woolf who married Emily Laura Winn.

The original marriage entry in the parish register shows:

St John the Evangelist, Kilburn, Middlesex
October 13th 1907
Philip WOOLF (vicar uses one L)
Bachelor
23
Omnibus conductor
? Cambridge Road
Father: Abraham WOOLF, tailor
Emily Laura WINN
Spinster
20
115 Cambridge Road
Father:  William Charles WINN, stevedore

Phillip (he signs with double L) and Emily signed the register
Witnesses: Adam BRIDGMAN, Florence WINN

In the 1911 Census indexes there are :

Phillip WOOLF 1886 with Emily Laura and child in Willesden, Middlesex
Philip LUPINSKY 1880 with parents Abraham and Rebecca in Hackney at the same address as the 1901 Census

There appear to be at least three children with Woolf as surname and mother’s maiden name as WINN:

Dec Qtr 1911 Willesden Vol 3a Page 350
Annie M

Dec Qtr 1915 Islington Vol 1b Page 266
Rose A

Jun Qtr 1917 Edmonton Vol 3a Page 811
William A

And there is a Millicent Emily WOOLF who could be the child with Phillip and Emily in the 1911 Census:
Sep Qtr 1908 Hendon Vol 3a Page 279

Is this the right family?  Do you have Rose’s birth cert?

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Jamienet, there is a Petition for Naturalisation document for Abraham and Rebecca Lupinsky made in Philadelphia and dated 20th November 1912, with supporting document of intention to become a US citizen dated 7th August 1906.

According to this naturalisation document Abraham was born 18th July 1868 at Bornitch, Russia.  He emigrated from Russia via Bremen aboard the vessel Darmstadt on 25th November 1904, arriving Baltimore on 8th December 1904.

He was married to Rebecca born ?Boizin Russia.  Now residing at 544 ?W ?Moyamensing Avenue, Philadelphia.  At that time he had three children:

Fanny b 3rd March 1893
Rose b 12th December 1896
Rachael b 10th May 1901, all born Benditcher, Russia

Referees:
Benny ?Smiler and Louis Powell, both Laundrymen of Philadelphia

Abraham was 5’7”, complexion fair, eyes gray, hair dk brown, no distinguishing marks; wife’s age 47

Kind regards
Gaie

Added:  Abraham's occupation was Shirt Operator
Sussex, Burwash/Somerset/South London: PANKHURST/FABLING/GREEN/KING/PARROT/POPE/PEMBROKE
Notts/Leics/London: POLLARD/BELAND/FELLS/MORRISON/MARYSON/CLARKE
Northants: MARRIOT/T
Suffolk: LINGLY/LINGLEY/LINDLY/LINDLEY/ SEAGER /SIGGER/SEGGAR/VINCE
Gloucs: WINDOW Glamorgan: JENKINS Cardiganshire: JONES
Poland: OZIEMKIEWICZ France: LINETTE

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Re: Lupinsky to Woolf to Baker!
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 10 April 10 13:53 BST (UK) »
Just as background info:  LUPINSKY to WOOLF is probably "anglicisation"

In an english speaking country, he would probably have wanted to, or been recommended to change his name, to something "more english".

Lupus (latin) = wolf, so WOOLF would be a logical choice, but still just that little bit different. 

Bob
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Re: Lupinsky to Woolf to Baker!
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 10 April 10 14:48 BST (UK) »
This is SO exciting. Thank you so much for your help!!! My grandmother is going to be so excited.

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Re: Lupinsky to Woolf to Baker!
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 10 April 10 15:11 BST (UK) »
How do I get a copy of te naturalization paper and the form that says the boat name? This is so interesting- but could be a fulltime job and very $$$.  Worth it- but it is so hard when you do not know where to find things.  I really appreciate your help!!!