1841/1851 Amalek OLD

[queenswood 1]

Can anyone fond Amalek OLD in 1841/1851? He was born around  1828 in Wootton Glanville
Thank you
Caroline

[AMBLY]

Hi

Do you have his parents names or any siblings?

Cheers
AMBLY

[AMBLY]

1841 - Buckland Newton,  Dorset 
Hundred: Cerne (Sub Division) Buckland Newton 
REF: Source information: HO107/283/3 Folio: 3  Page: 1 
RD : Dorchester and Cerne  Sub-RD : Cerne  ED: 5 
Address: Dunfish
Alfred OLD 40 Yeoman
Martha OLD 40
Angia OLD15
Alalia OLD 15
Amleck OLD 13
Mary OLD 5
Margaret OLD 4
Alfred OLD 2
Ann OLD 7
/
Margaret OLD 60 Ind
Jacob HARE (or MARE?)  15, Ind
D(inah?) HAYWARD (or HAYWOOD) 75, Ind
Rebecca HAYWARD (or HAYWOOD) 45, Ind
//

All born in County

There is a mark / after Ann  which should denote end of one seperate family in a single dwelling - and I note she is last child listed but not the youngest, it doesn't specify yrs, weeks or months old. It may mean in this case she was a family member (same surname) but not a child of the Heading couple, Alfred & Martha.

Cheers
AMBLY

[queenswood 1]

Really helpful! Thank you very much
Caroline

[AMBLY]

Hi Caroline

I can't find him in 1851    Maybe someone has better eyes for him than me!!

I see he married Jun Qtr 1852 in Dorchester, Dorset to Mary ROPER - and by time daughter born around 1858/59 they were in Plumstead Kent and still  there on 1861,  1871, 1881 Census...... remarried 1883 to Ann; still in Kent 1891 and 1901.

A Blacksmith by trade in 1861, 1871, 1881, retired Blacksmith 1891, 1901.  Age is consistent in Censii, and so is birthplace (though with various spellings)

I notice in 1881 his ful Occ. is "Blacksmith Royal Arsenal"
And also, Plumstead is in the Woolwich RD of Kent. Woolwich was where there is/was an Army base/depot I think?
Also, in 1891 he is indexed as living in "Town West India Dock, London"  - not sure if this is some kind of index 'linking' error -  the actual image says he is  is in Plumstead and on same street (Cresent St) as in earlier Census. 

Does this sound like he may have been an Army Blacksmith and may have done his apprenticeship that way - may explain being unable to locate him in 1851???

Here are his parents in 1851, though!

1851 - Charminster  Dorset 
RD : Dorchester   Sub-RD : Maiden Newton   ED: 1 
REF : Class: HO107; Piece: 1858; Folio: 415; Page: 34
Head: Alfred OLD 55 Dairyman, b Glanville Wooten Dorset
Wife: Martha OLD 56, b Mapperton Dorset
Dau: Angia OLD 26, unm b Glanville Wootton Dorset
Dau: Mary OLD 15, b Buckland Newton Dorset
Dau: Margaret OLD 14 b Buckland Newton Dorset
Son: ALfred OLD 12, b Buckland Newton Dorset
Dau: Maria OLD 9 b Buckland Newton Dorset
Visitor: Richard OLD, 21, unm, Carpenter, b Glanville Wooten Dorset

Cheers
AMBLY

[queenswood 1]

Thank you for all your help! I am actually searching for Amalek batten who was born in woottn Glanville around 1832. I was really intrigued by Amalek Old as Amalek is an unusual name and wootton Glanville is not that big to have had more than one person with such an unusual christian name!
Thank you for all your research! - I will keep it for referenec for wootton Glanville anyway!
Caroline

[AMBLY]

Hi Caroline

Even more intrigued I am - when I  see Amalek BATTEN on 1861 Census with a wife named Martha   

Good luck on find a connection !

Cheers
AMBLY

[queenswood 1]

Thank you for all your help!
Caroline

[GenJohn]

CHR 11 Jul 1827    Old, Amalek    S/O Alfred Old & Ann     Glanvilles Wootton    Carpenter

CHR 29 Jan 1832    Batten, Amalek    Robert Batten    Jemima     Glanvilles Wootton    Labourer

hope this helps