looking for a martha devereux

[andreajodie]

hi im looking for a census record of a martha devereux born in haverfordwest in 1869. i have no idea wherabouts in haverfordwest she was born, who her parents were or even how long she lived there. i have totally hit a brick wall here  . all i do know is that she married a walter baldwin young from lincolnshire. he too was bron in 1869. id be grateful for any help.
thanks
jodie 

[AMBLY]

Hi Jodie

This one's age is corresponds to your information:

1871 - Camrose Pembrokeshire Wales
RD :HaverfordwestED:28
REF: Class: RG10; Piece: 5530; Folio: 10; Page: 13
Keeston Village
Head: Thomas Devereaux, widower, 56, Farm Labourer
Dau: Mary DEVEREAUX unm, 33, General Servant
Dau: Eliza DEVEREAUX. 11, Same (?)
Dau: Martha DEVEREAUX 11ms
All born Camrose, Pemb.

I don''t think the relationships are correct here - On the 1881 Census this Thomas is listed as a fatherinlaw age 65, living with Head: William SMITH and his wife Martha age 27. And also in the house a niece, Martha DEVEREAUX age 10. So I think in 1871, the 2 children Eliza & Martha are Thomas' grandaughters.
view 1881  here: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp
Going back to 1861, seems to confirm this:

1861 - Camrose Pembrokeshire Wales
Ecclesiastical parish:St David
RD :Haverfordwest ED:28
REF: Class: RG9; Piece: 4166; Folio: 20; Page: 14
Keeston
Head: Thomas DEVEREAUX, 46, Highroad Labourer, b Camrose Pemb.
Wife: Martha DEVEREAUX 47, b Rock (Roch?) Pemb
Son: Stephen DEVEREAUX 14, Farm Servant
Son: George DEVEREAUX 10, b Camrose Pemb.
Dau: Martha DEVERAUX 7, b Camrose Pemb.
Gr-Dau: Eliza  DEVEREAUX 1, b Camrose Pemb.

In 1871  is also this young Martha whose age returns a birth year of around 1867, who  can't be discounted as 'your' Martha given how ages are often 'out' on BDM's and Census.

1871 Boulston Pembrokeshire Wales
RD :Haverfordwest   ED:20
REF: Class: RG10; Piece: 5528; Folio: 53; Page: 2
Piskin
Head: Thomas DEVEREAUX , 28, agricultural Labourer, b Camrose Pemb.
Wife: Margret DEVEREAUX  37, b Llanwnda, Pemb
Son: WIlliam DEVEREAUX 8, b Llanwnda, Pemb
Dau: Martha DEVEREAUX 4, b Wallace Castle, Pemb

Very possibly this  younger Thomas is a son of the Thomas the widower of Martha as per 1861, 1871.

In 1891, the Martha I listed first (age 11 months in 1871 Census) appears to be here:
Steynton Pembrokeshire Wales
Town:Milford Haven
RD :Haverfordwest  Sub RD :Milford  ED2
REF: Class: RG12; Piece: 4533; Folio 16; Page 5
22 Charles Street
Servant: Martha DEVEREAUX, unm, 20, General Servant, b Keyston Pemb.
in Household of William COLE  widower age 29,  Mason, b Pemb. and his relative Annie BISHOP age 14 b Middlesex London.

I see your Martha in 1901 Census in England, married to Walter BALDWIN where as you say, she is listed as born Haverfordwest around 1869.

Probably need to get her father's name - and her age -  off marriage record now, and try getting back that way to confirm which one in the earlier Census is her?

Cheers 
AMBLY

[Tattyjacket]

Hi,
Please excuse me....I'm rather new to family history research. This is what I've discovered.

There were at least two ladies called Martha Devereux. 1814 - 1866 was my great great grandmother. I believe she died of cholera. Her daughter was another Martha Devereux. She was my great grandmother. I have a picture of her. I also believe that there was another Martha Devereux, possibly a niece to 1814 -1866....who might have been involved in a court case involving a seance.

I've quite a bit of information on Thomas Devereux 1815 - 1890. During his lifetime, together with Martha #2 they moved to the Rhondda Valley where he became a collier.
I'd love to learn more about Thomas' father Stephen, who once had a farm in Keeston.

[Deirdre784]

Possible birth from the GRO website:
Martha Devereux, Haverfordwest, June quarter 1868, mmn Devonald. Vol 11a, p844.

Or given Ambly’s find on the 1871 when Martha is 11 months, with an unmarried mother, more likely to be this one:
Martha Devereux, June quarter 1870, mmn “-“. Vol 11a, p844 (same page as the earlier one).

[Deirdre784]

Jodie, does what Ambly found fit in with what you know? 😀