William HILL Ventriloquist 1858

[Hopscotch]

VENTRILOQUIST William Hill b 1831 Lambeth, London.

William m Jane Saffrey in Lambeth 1858.

The Daughter Amy Jane b June 14 1858


Hopscotch

[dawnsh]

Hi Hopscotch

What look-ups are you asking for?

Dawn

[Hopscotch]

Hi Dawnish

I am looking for anyone who has any relation to William Hill Ventriloquist.

I am helping a friend out as they are stuck well and truely stuck, not knowing where he went to.
Any Help would be very nice.

Hopscotch

[casalguidi]

Hi Hopscotch

I assume that you have found them on some census ............... which census have you found them on ie. when/where   If you post the details then perhaps somebody can try and find them on the missing ones.  It might be useful to post the info from the marriage certificate also if that might help to locate the family.

Best wishes

Casalguidi

[Hopscotch]

Hi Casalguidi

Jane Saffrey b 1836 Christening  All Saints Church Lambeth 7 August 1839 age 3 years.

Jane Saffrey b 1836 m 11 March 1858 to William Hill b 1831, Jane  22yrs & William 27yrs when they married. William's Father's name was George Hill no known year of Birth.

Amy Jane Hill b 14 June 1858 at 128 Regent Street London, registered Amy's birth 16 July 1858.

Death of Jane Hill Wife of William March 1875 age 39years.

This is all we could possible find.


Hopscotch

[jorose]

Who has 1861 census? There appears to be an Amy Hill b. 1858 London along with an Edward Hill b. 1860 London and a Hannah b. 1852 (perhaps a cousin?) listed as 'visitor' but without full access I can't see who they belong to.  They're in Sutton, Surrey.

Not having any luck in the 1871 so far although there is a 13 year old Amy Hill in what appears to be a boarding school in Kensington - RG 10/40 Folio 23 page 48.

The death of Jane Hill - the certificate shows her as wife of William? Or as widowed?

[suzard]

1861 RG9/418 811

Myrtle Rd Sutton Surrey
John Edmonds Head 50 Tailor Surrey Richmond
Mary Ann wife 40 London

John Edmonds son 20 Folkstone
James Edmonds son 9 London
Hannah Hill visitor 9 London
Amy Hill visitor 3 London
Edward Hill visitor 1 (looks like 1 -image crossed through) London

Suz

[Bryant]

Here is a SAFFREY starter

1841
HATFIELD PLACE, LONDON ROAD, ST GEORGE THE MARTYR, SOUTHWARK, SURREY
JAMES SAFFREY  45  COACH BUILDER  Y (BORN IN SURREY)
TABITHA   "         45                              Y
BENJAMIN "         20 WHIP M                Y
WILLIAM   "         13      "                      Y
SOPHIE     "         12                             Y
JAMES       "          7                               Y
JANE         "           5                               Y
-----------------------------

Bryant 

[Bryant]

As for WILLIAM HILL he appears to be living at

1841 census
Birdcage Alley, St George the Martyr, Southwark, Surrey

WILLIAM HILL  10                    Y (BORN IN SURREY)

he is living in a large household where every adult (15+) of which their are 10 was born in IRELAND   

I'm curious................how do you know he was a ventriliquist? from his marriage cert, if not? what was his occupation and his father George's occupation on that marriage cert?

Bryant