The mystery of Elizabeth Hewitt ..

[LindsaySiam]

Elizabeth Hewitt, daughter of Joseph Hewitt and Charlotte Wright was born c. 1857 in Baillieston according to all the census info .. but she has no birth certificate that I can find, nor OPR always supposing that she may have been born actually before 1855. 

She died between 1923 and 1942. She is not mentioned as deceased on the 1923 marriage certificate of her son William Lyon Gibson or the 1922 marriage certificate of her daughter Jane Hewitt Gibson but is deceased on the death certificate of Jane Hewitt Gibson (then Findlay) in 1942.  Again, I can't find a death certificate ...

She was married 11 Jun 1878 in Baillieston to Andrew Gibson (there is a certificate  ) and they lived for all their married life at Jellyhill Farm in Cadder where Andrew died in 1903.  Her children William Lyon Gibson and Jane Hewitt Gibson above both married at Jellyhill so presumably the family was still there in 1922/23.

What happened to her? Any thoughts welcome!

[Janice M]

Hi,
Her parents were married:
JOSEPH HEWITT 
CHARLOTTE WRIGHT 
Marriage:  27 AUG 1854   Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland
 
Her Siblings:

JAMES CLYDESDALE HEWIT 
Birth:  07 JAN 1855   Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland
Father:  JOSEPH HEWIT   
Mother:  CHARLOTTE WRIGHT 

WILLIAM HEWETT 
Birth:  08 APR 1861   Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland
Father:  JOSEPH HEWETT
Mother:  CHARLOTT WRIGHT 

ANDREW HEWITT 
Birth:  01 MAY 1866   Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland
Father:  JOSEPH HEWITT   
Mother:  CHARLOTTE WRIGHT 

CHARLOTTE HEWITT 
Birth:  02 JAN 1864   Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland
Father:  JOSEPH HEWITT 
Mother:  CHARLOTTE WRIGHT 

JANE HEWITT 
Birth:  04 JAN 1869   Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland
Father:  JOSEPH HEWITT   
Mother:  CHARLOTTE WRIGHT

AGNES HEWITT 
Birth:  26 AUG 1872   Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland
Father:  JOSEPH HEWITT   
Mother:  CHARLOTTE WRIGHT 

I am still looking for her birth.

Janice

[Janice M]

Here is the 1881 Census info for her parents.

Gillies Land Crosshill
Old Monkland, Lanark
Joseph HEWITT M 65 M Inch, Wigtown, Scotland Head Colliery Labourer
Charlotte HEWITT M 46 F Falkirk, Stirling, Scotland Wife
Robert HEWITT U 22 M Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland Son Coal Miner
William HEWITT U 19 M Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland
Son Coal Miner
Andrew HEWITT U 14 M Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland Son Coal Miner

Her Sister:

Hill Of Kilncadzow
Carluke, Lanark, Scotland
(Home of Alex and Marion Allison)
Charlotte HEWIT U 17 F  Bailliston, Renfrew, Scotland Serv
Gen Servant

Jellyhill
Cadder, Lanark, Scotland
Andrew GIBSON M 36 M East Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland Head Ag Lab
Elizabeth GIBSON M 24 F Bailiston, Lanark, Scotland Wife Ag Lah Wife
Thomas GIBSON 7 M Blantyre, Lanark, Scotland Son Scholar
Margaret GIBSON 5 F Cumbuslang, Lanark, Scotland Daur Scholar
Andrew GIBSON 1 M Bailiston, Lanark, Scotland Son
Charlotte GIBSON 1 m F Cadder, Lanark, Scotland Daur


Janice

[Janice M]

There is:
1 Elizabeth Hewitt (using Soundex) born in 1855 in Old Monkland (same as her siblings were)

1 Elizabeth Hewitt (using Soundex) born in 1858 in Greenock, Renfrew

1 Elizabeth Hewitt (using Soundex) born in 1860 in Abbey, Renfrew

I would be inclined to look at the one in Old Monkland, as that is the same place her sister Charlotte was born, and Charlotte also listed Balliston as her place of birth on the 1881 Census. I found them on Scotlands People at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk There is a charge to view the certificates.

Janice

[LindsaySiam]

Hello Janice, thanks for taking all this trouble and I appreciate the credits that you spent to get the 3 births of an Elizabeth Hewitt but none of them are her ... please let me know if I can reciprocate credits, will do so willingly for any of yours.

The 1855 bc of James Clydesdale Hewitt shows he was Charlotte's first child so I know Elizabeth was born after him and presumably before William Hewitt in 1861 - all census data and age on mc (21 in 1878) is consistent with her being born in 1857.  I have more or less given up on finding a bc but can't believe I can't find a dc either.

regards,

Lindsay

[Kate B]

Can I ask a question on this from someone more experienced?

Andrew died 1903 when Elizabeth Gibson ms Hewitt would be about 46yo (and maybe fancy-able enough to catch the eye of another man!)

IF Elizabeth remarried, how could her death be searched for on Scotland's People?  There’s an option only for 2 surnames, so which 2 would you search for?

What I’m trying to say is : Would Scotland's People index any second marriage under her maiden name of Hewitt or her widow’s name of Gibson?

[LindsaySiam]

Hello Kate, it's a good question, from what I have seen on others, the maiden name (if known) is always indexed and I have seen entries with more than one name shown under the Other Surnames column.  SP says "Married women are indexed under their maiden surname and any married surname(s)." so presumably there may be more than one Index entry pointing to the same certificate.

A search on SP for an Elizabeth Hewitt born 1857 +- 5 years, died between 1903 (when Andrew Gibson died) and 1942 shows only 5 and none of them are her. I have tried also every combination of soundex, *, ?, etc that I can think of and have rapidly got nowhere .....

I considered that she might have remarried but checking with others in my family, they don't think so, nor does anybody think that she left the country although that is the only other possibility that I can think of.

regards,

Lindsay

[Clare Fowler]

Hi Lindsay,

I know you have probably spent a fortune on SP trying to locate her birth, but have you seen the one for a Bethia Hewitt in Old Monkland for 1860?  I am wondering if her name was not actually Elizabeth as being the reason that you cannot find her, and this one could be a possibility  

Modified: I double-checked this on IGI and its the wrong parents   Sorry!

Good luck with finding her.

Cheers,
Clare

[MonicaL]

Hi Linday

The one thing I find strange is that none of the 1856-60 births are showing for the family in Lanark. Robert b. c1858/9 also in New Monkland (according to the 1881 Census) doesn't show either on both SP and IGI. There is one birth of a Robert in New Monkland in 1859, but that is to another family (Father: JOSEPH HOWAT/ Mother: SARAH STEWART). Their first child in 1855, James, shows on IGI and then nothing until William's birth in 1861.

I've searched for her birth and any others in that late 1850s period using just the individual batch codes on IGI in Lanark, which as you know makes the search fields very flexible, and nothing.

Have you found the family in the 1861 Census?

Regards.

Monica