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Re: Colonel Jacynth D'EWES and his Sunbeam 25 h.p.
« Reply #27 on: Friday 28 July 06 09:23 BST (UK) »
Now that I know his actual surname a friend found this for me.

From the 1935 copy of Who's Who.

Coke,Col.Jacynth d'Ewes Fitz-Ercald, CMG 1918, CVO 1924, CBE 1927, late RASC; Chief Constable of West Suffolk since 1932; b 1879; m Elizabeth d.of late Albert Waller, of Shannon Grove, Banagher, Ireland; one s. two d. Served South Africa War, 1899 - 1902 (despatches, Queen's medal and 3 clasps, Kings medal and 1 clasp); European War, 1914-18 (despatches, CMG, Legion of Honour) Commander of the Order of the SAviour; retired pay, 1919; Chief Constable of the West Riding of Yorkshire 1919-20; Chief of the British Police Mission to the Greek Govt.,1929-31; His Majesty's Lieutenant for the City of London. Address: Thurston, Suffolk, Clubs: Junior United Service; West Suffolk County.

So now I know where he was in 1901.

Also Thurston is only about 8 miles from Walsham le Willows where the garage is that owned the car next. Quite possible that he sold the car to them direct without any intervening owners.

He certainly sounds like "quite a chap".
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Re: Colonel Jacynth D'EWES and his Sunbeam 25 h.p.
« Reply #28 on: Friday 28 July 06 12:34 BST (UK) »
I live across the road from Lady Laura Poole, her father is the Earl of Leicester and he lives at Holkham Hall in Norfolk.

Their family name is Coke (say Cook)

Wonder if any connection ?


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Re: Colonel Jacynth D'EWES and his Sunbeam 25 h.p.
« Reply #29 on: Friday 28 July 06 13:29 BST (UK) »
Interesting thread!

Jacynth Coke is listed in the "Police Index" on the Black Sheep Index site http://www.lightage.demon.co.uk/ - it looks like they may have a record of his 1919  application to be Chief Constable....this looks like a useful site but it's new to me.

He's also in this family tree which may be the same as the one already referred to above http://users.adelphia.net/~hwaller/George%20Waller.htm
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Re: Colonel Jacynth D'EWES and his Sunbeam 25 h.p.
« Reply #30 on: Friday 28 July 06 14:10 BST (UK) »
Yes, that'll be his application to become CC in Yorkshire.

I've made another deduction (good word for this wild speculative guess).

1919 to 1929 chief constable of the West Riding in Yorkshire
1929 to 1931 Chief of the British Police Mission to the Greek Govt.
1932 to 1937 Chief Constable of West Suffolk

The car was first registered in September 1928, presumably when he bought it. Sunbeams of that period could be fitted with a flat radiator, or optionally, a larger V fronted colonial radiator. The colonial cars also had cooling fans fitted. The car I've bought has a vast colonial radiator (the cooling system takes five and a half gallons of water) and fan. I wonder if he took it with him to Greece?

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Re: Colonel Jacynth D'EWES FITZ-ERCAL COKE and his Sunbeam 25 h.p.
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 30 August 06 08:57 BST (UK) »
Just to let you know that your letter appealing for more information is in today's East Anglian Daily Times  ;)

I hope you might hear something very soon.

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Every time I find an ancestor,
I have to find two more!

SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham - all link to  Framlingham 
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally Framlingham/Parham)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert & Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith LDN - Fulker
LDN/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
 
GGfather Michael Wilson born Cork, lived Fulham London - moved to Boston USA 1889, what happened next?

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Re: Colonel Jacynth D'EWES FITZ-ERCAL COKE and his Sunbeam 25 h.p.
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 30 August 06 09:42 BST (UK) »
Thanks for letting me know ;D

I'll post a summary of any info I get. I'll go to their website and buy a copy of the paper. Did they print a picture?

UPDATE: They have an online edition which for a hefty £1 I was able to download! No picture, but I'm delighted that they published the letter. Here's hoping...

Alan
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Re: Colonel Jacynth D'EWES FITZ-ERCAL COKE and his Sunbeam 25 h.p.
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 30 August 06 14:25 BST (UK) »




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Re: Colonel Jacynth D'EWES FITZ-ERCAL COKE and his Sunbeam 25 h.p.
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 30 August 06 14:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Annie

The letter I wrote to them is copied below. It's about the car, but I mentioned the Colonel in the hope that one of his family might get in touch. I've written letters to local papers with genealogy questions, and I've never had one published yet.

They didn't publish a picture, but if someone gets in touch and we meet up, they might!

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Sir, - I'm researching the history of a 1927 Sunbeam 25hp that I've just bought, registration number SY3688.

The earliest known owner was Colonel Jacynth d'Ewes Fitz-Ercald Coke, who became Chief Constable of West Suffolk in 1932 and was living somewhere in Thurston in 1935. I have also been told that the car was in Walsham-le-Willows for many years. It was stored in a lean-to at the Sideways Garage during the war. At some point after the war, the roof of the lean-to collapsed, and the car was converted into a breakdown truck with a wooden cab and crane.
 
I would very much like to hear from anyone who can confirm any of the above, or tell me more about the car's time in Suffolk.
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« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 13 September 06 11:32 BST (UK) »
I've had a reply  ;D ;D ;D ;D

I've been in touch with a gentleman who drove her just after the war. He told me a wonderful story about how he used her to pick up concrete tank traps and drop them at the side of the river to strengthen the banks in '48/'49.

At that time she had a cab from a Morris Commercial lorry, and the crane was made from a Harvey Frost hoist and parts of a lorry tipper and lorry chassis.

I'm arranging to meet him, and there might be a follow-up story in the paper. When a date is arranged I'll post it here in case any of you want to come along.

Alan
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