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Census lookup please, 1841 & 1861.. GRIFFEY...Hythe.
« on: Wednesday 26 July 06 01:50 BST (UK) »
Samuel Griffey  married Thomazin Nicholls   29/7/1816 in Northam, Devon.

Three children were born  probably in Devon.
Thomazin Nicholls Griffey   c 1817
Richard Griffey  c 1819
John Nicholls Griffey c1822

1851 census   Twist Fort   Hythe St Leonard  Kent.
Griffey Samuel  head  59   Bideford  Devon  Commissioned Boatman.
Griffey Thomasine   wife  55    Northam
Griffey  Jane  dau   22  unm    ?    West Wales
Griffey  Elizabeth  dau  unm   20   Anglessey   West Wales
Griffey  James  son  15  unm   Hythe  Kent
Griffey  Thomas  son  13  unm  Hythe  Kent
Griffey John  grandson   2   Hythe  Kent.

Please would someone look for this family in 1841 and 1861?
Also where were the three eldest children in 1851?
Perhaps there were more children.

In the 1881 Census I have found who I think is Jane married to William Maycock. living at High St, Hythe St Leonard.

Also
John H Griffey with wife and children living in Bartholomew St... he could well be the grandson  John of the 1851 census.

1881   Samuel Griffey  age 16  is living with his widowed grandmother Ann Hyam in High St.

I have no idea where he fits into the family.

Any help will be most appreciated.

What is a commissioned boatman?

Thank you,
Narelle.




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Re: Census lookup please, 1841 & 1861.. GRIFFEY...Hythe.
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 26 July 06 01:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Narelle

1841 Census England Kent St Leonard Hythe
HO107/478/8/19/31
Fort Twist

GRIFFEY
Samuel 45 Coast Guard
Thomasine 45
William 15
Jane 13
Elizabeth 10
Henry (
James 6
Thomas 4

Henry, James and Thomas were all born in the County of Kent, the others born outside of Kent.

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Re: Census lookup please, 1841 & 1861.. GRIFFEY...Hythe.
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 26 July 06 02:06 BST (UK) »
1861 Census England Kent Saltwood
RG9/554/32/15
Lammers Hill

GRIFFEY
Samuel Head Wid 68 Coast Guard Pensioner Devon Bideford
James Son Unmarr 25 Gen Lab Kent Hythe
Thomazine Dau Unmarr 40 Dressmaker Devon Appledore
John Grandson Unmarr 12 Scholare Kent Hythe

Cannot find the eldest three on the 1851 yet.

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Re: Census lookup please, 1841 & 1861.. GRIFFEY...Hythe.
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 26 July 06 08:32 BST (UK) »
There are some details about Samuel GRIFFEY here:

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/Coastguards/F-G.html
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: Census lookup please, 1841 & 1861.. GRIFFEY...Hythe.
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 26 July 06 08:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Narelle

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What is a commissioned boatman?

Karen and bearkat have actually answered your question - it was a member of the coastguard see http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Navy_List_1844_Jun/Coastguard_Entry.html for some useful information.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=54 for records at the National Archives, Kew, London

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Re: Census lookup please, 1841 & 1861.. GRIFFEY...Hythe.
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 26 July 06 09:57 BST (UK) »
Dear Karenlee,  bearkat  and Casalguidi,

Thank you very much for your help.

I will check out those sites.

Now I must figure out where to go next.

Eventually I hope to find a living descendant somewhere in the world.

Cheers,
Narelle.

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Re: Census lookup please, 1841 & 1861.. GRIFFEY...Hythe.
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 10 January 09 16:52 GMT (UK) »
I can help you with one of Samuel's children.  Elizabeth was my great-great-great-grandmother.  In 1858, when she was 28, she married William Lapthorn, who was serving in the army (he was a Corporal in the Engineers) and stationed in Hythe at the time, though coincidentally he was also originally from Devon, like his father-in-law.  At some point in the next two years, William started serving in Gibraltar, and Elizabeth went with him.  Their first four children, Elizabeth, William, Thomas and John, were born there between 1860 and 1867.  William was discharged from the army in July 1867, and they returned, briefly, to Hythe.  However, by 1870 they were living in Plymouth (William had been born in a small villlage just outside Plymouth, so it is possible he still had family there - I am trying to investigate!); their youngest son, James, was born in Plymouth in 1870.  William resumed the occupation that he had started before joining the army at the age of 20, that of stone masonry.  At some point in the 1870s, however, the family moved up to Liverpool.  I can only surmise that it was for financial reasons; they had no family in Lancashire that I can find, and I believe economic conditions in Devon at that time were not great.  In 1880 their daughter Elizabeth married a stonemason, and I think returned to the south west.  Her younger siblings also married locally, but remained in Liverpool.  William Lapthorn died in 1895 at the age of 69, and Elizabeth died in 1906, at the age of 74, of old age.  Three years later, her two eldest sons William and Thomas (my great-great grandfather) sailed from Liverpool to Ellis Island in New York, and disappear from the records.  Their families remained in Liverpool.

I hope that fills in one gap, at least!  I would be interested in anything else you have found out about the Griffey family; I have mostly concentrated on the Lapthorn line so far!

Tamsin