McAlpine

[bozzwell]

I'm looking for information on Mathew Gardner McAlpine. He was married to Euphemia Russell. One of their children was James McAlpine, born19/8/1836, and James was married to Margaret Walker in New Monkland 1856.
Thanks

[Janice M]

Found this on LDS Family History site. These files were submitted by a family member.

MATTHEW MC ALPINE 
EUPHEMIA RUSSELL
Marriage:  13 JUL 1832   Denny, Stirling, Scotland
 
CHILDREN:

EUPHEMIA MCALPINE 
Birth:  15 FEB 1846   Bo'Ness, West Lothian, Scotland
Father:  MATTHEW MCALPINE 
Mother:  EUPHEMIA RUSSELL

ROBERT RUSSELL MC ALPIN 
Christening:  01 AUG 1841   Denny, Stirling, Scotland
Father:  MATTHEW MC ALPIN   
Mother:  EUPHEMIA RUSSELL 

WILLIAM MC ALPINE 
Christening:  05 NOV 1843   Denny, Stirling, Scotland
Father:  MATTHEW MC ALPINE   
Mother:  EUPHEMIA RUSSEL 
 
MATTHEW GARDINER MC ALPIN     
Birth:  12 MAR 1848   Gavel, New Monkland, Lanark, Scotland
Father:  MATTHEW GARDINER MC ALPIN
Mother:  EUPHEMIA RUSSELL 
 


Janice

[bozzwell]

Thanks Janice.

The only one not mentioned is James, born 1836 in Denny. And he's the one I've got in my tree! I'm pleased to know of his siblings though.

Betty

[apanderson]

Hi Betty,

One thing that struck me about Matthew & Euphemias children . . .

More often that not, a couple's first child is born sooner than 4 years after their marriage - do you think there were maybe more who died in infancy?

Also, there is an awful big gap between the birth of James in 1836 and Euphemia in 1846 - more infant deaths do you think?

Anne

[bozzwell]

Hi Anne,

It does seem a bit odd. In fact, I'm quite confused.

First of all I've got  Euphemia Russell born 5/1/1814 in Denny, Stirling. Her parents were James Russell and Margaret Henderson who were married in December 1804.

Then I've got another Euphemia Russell born 12/12/1814 in Larbert Stirling. Her parents were James Russell and Catherine Hardie who were married on 9/10/1814.

James Russell and Catherine Hardie are shown with two children, the eldest bein Euphemia, followed by her brother James, born three years later in 1817.

It makes more sense to me that  James Russell and Margaret Henderson were the parents of Euphemia because of the date of their marriage. On the IGI, Euphemia is the only child shown!.

James Russell and Catherine Hardie are shown with two children, the eldest being Euphemia, followed by her brother James, born three years later in 1817.

Regarding Mathew and Euphemas' children   -------
I have found two more of their children on the IGI.
1.  Robert Russell McAlpine, DOB 1/8/1841
2.  William McAlpine,            DOB 5/11/1843
I agree with you that there may even have been more children who didn't survive.

Getting back to Euphemia Russell, I don't know which of the two couples are her parents. Perhaps someone will be able to help!.

Betty

[bwardrop]

Hi Betty,
I've been working on the McAlpines of Bothwell, Shotts, & Denny and came across your Rootschat.

I think that Matthew Gardiner McAlpine & Euphemia Russell probably succumbed to the Cholera Epidemic that was around Old Monkland & New Monkland in 1848/9.

In 1851 their sons David & James can be seen in Hamilton Rd, Bothwell with their uncle Robert McAlpine & Ann Paterson (Parents of Sir Robert McAlpine).
Also in 1851 their children William & Euphemia can be seen at Shedding Road, Denny with their Grandmother Margaret Henderson.

Regards Brian

[JudyR]

I have Margaret McAlpine who married John Russell, 11 Nov 1797 in Cambusnethan.  Their children were born over the next years in Netherton and Cambusnethan.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Descendants of John Russell
                     
   1     John Russell   b: 01 Apr 1766 in Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland      d: 25 Mar 1844 in Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland      
..      +Margaret McAlpine   b: 18 Sep 1780 in Barony, Lanark, Scotland   m: 11 Nov 1797 in Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland   d: Aft. 1851   Father: ?Robert McAlpine   Mother: ?Ann Smellie
.....   2     John Russell   b: in Netherton, Lanark, Scotland      d: 13 May 1875 in Carluke, Ontario, Canada      
.........      +Janet Smellie   b: 1802 in Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland   m: Apr 1828 in Parish of Cambusnethan, Lanarkshire, Scotland   d: 12 Jun 1894 in Carluke, Ontario, Canada      
.....   2     Margaret Russell   b: 28 Jul 1799 in Netherton, Lanark, Scotland            
.....   2     James Russell   b: 17 Jun 1801 in Netherton, Lanark, Scotland      d: Abt. 13 Nov 1812 in Shotts Parish, Lanarkshire Scotland      
.....   2     Christina Russell   b: Abt. 1805 in probably Netherton, Lanark, Scotland      d: 19 Nov 1874 in Knowehead Farm, Carluke, Scotland      
.........      +George Ferguson   b: Abt. 1809 in Biggar, Lanark, Scotland   m: Abt. 1830   d: 03 Mar 1874 in Knowehead Farm, Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland   Father: John Ferguson   Mother: Jane Todd
.....   2     Jean Russell   b: 11 Jul 1805 in Netherton, Lanark, Scotland      d: 25 Oct 1885 in Alviston, Ontario, Canada      
.........      +Robert Gray II   b: 19 Oct 1807 in Carmichael, Lanark, Scotland   m: Abt. 1832   d: 18 May 1896 in Alviston, Ontario, Canada   Father: Robert Gray   Mother: Janet Robb
.....   2     Robert Russell   b: 1808 in Netherton, Lanark, Scotland      d: 24 Jul 1881 in Ancaster Twp, Ontario, Canada      
.........      +Grace "Grizzle" Brownlie   b: 29 Apr 1806 in Bonkle, Lanarkshire, Scotland   m: Abt. 1833   d: 21 Jan 1894 in Ancaster, Ontario, Canada   Father: Alexander Brownlie   Mother: Margaret Russell
.....   2     Janet Russell   b: 10 Apr 1810 in Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland      d: Aft. 1881      
.....   2     Ann Russell   b: 17 Jul 1813 in Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland      d: 16 Jan 1874 in Larkhall, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Smallpox      
.........      +John STB Summerville Cromb   b: Abt. 1826 in Carnwath, Lanarkshire, Scotland   m: Abt. 1841   d: 04 Aug 1860 in Smarnothshields, Cambusnethan, Scotland   Father: Andrew Cromb   Mother: Marion Bishop
.....   2     George Russell   b: 10 Feb 1816 in Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland      d: Abt. 12 Nov 1850 in Scarhill, Lanark, Scotland      
.........      +Elizabeth George   b: Abt. 1821 in Hamilton, Lanark, Scotland/Hamilton, Scotland   m: 03 Jul 1842 in Bothwell, Lanark, Scotland   d: Bet. 1881 - 1902   Father: Thomas George   Mother: Janet Porteous
.....   2     Mirrion Russell   b: Abt. 1821            

[JudyR]

I have recently found the DC of Margaret McAlpine Russell, 1857.  Her grandson Andrew Crom was the informanant, stating that her parents were James McAlpine and Margaret Morten. Her age is given as 83, so her birth year would be around 1774. She lived at Snarnothshield, which matches earlier census information.

The details of her ancestry I posted originally were, therefore, incorrect and I am looking for family details.

I see a marriage document in Carluke for what might be these parents: 12 Dec 1761 James McAlpie and Margaret Morton.  Also two children born to them Martha, b 16 Mar 1777 and William b 21 Feb 1775.

The descendants may be ...not certain, though:

Descendants of James McAlpin
         
   1     James McAlpin   
.      +Margaret Morton   
.............   2     Andrew McAlpie   b: 05 Jan 1761 in Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland
.............   2     James McAlpine   b: 20 Nov 1763 in Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland
.............   2     Robert McAlpie   b: 19 Jan 1766 in Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland
.............   2     Margaret McAlpine   b: Abt. 1774 in Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland
.................      +John Russell   b: 01 Apr 1766 in Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland
.............   2     Martha McAlpine   b: 06 Mar 1777 in Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland
.............   2     Mary Calpie   b: 09 Apr 1779 in Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland
.............   2     Janet McAlpie   b: 29 Apr 1781 in Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland


I'd be glad to hear from others researching the McAlpin and Morton families of Carluke or from others with clues as to the ancestry of the families.

JudyR