does anyone have West Lothian Monumental Inscriptions pre 1855

[whitefoxwestsussex]

Dannydescendant,

We are also descendants of this line,

Whitefox

[jwyrick]

I also have been lookig for West Lothian inscriptions pre 1855.  Specifically, I am looking for the family of William Gray .  William Gray died between 1851 and 1861.  They lived in Linlithgow from birth, marriage, and census records.  His wife was Mary Carlaw who died in 1863.  Any info would be helpful.
thanks, Joanne

[jean jeanie]

Hi Joanne

No William Gray or Mary Carlaw.

However, there are two MI's in Linlithgow for the surname Carlaw, which may or may not be yours.

Erected by William Dumbreck in 1815. (J) D. William Dumbreck Junior. wife Ann Carlaw 8.1.1815 aged 36. Children; Alexander Dumbreck 8.11.1887 aged 49. Wife Helen Mackie.

Robert Carlow, gas manager, wife Janet Middlemas 26.3.1846 aged 37. Son Robert 7.9.1845 aged 3 months.

Hope this is of some help.

Best wishes
Jean

[jwyrick]

Hi Jean,

Thanks for the information.  I will check into these names and see if they are related (they probably are).  Also, do you know if there is a burial listing for those who died after 1855?

Thanks again.

Joanne

[Cauther Lassie]

Hello,

I have the West Lothian Burial CD which contains interments for Linlithgow to 1974 - There are 61 entries for the name Gray - none for Carlaw.  In the 1851 Census there is a William Gray aged 73 born Livingston, living at Wester Tartraven, Linlithgow with wife Mary born Linlithgow aged 67 - is this the family you are looking for?   Strangely enough in the 1841 census William is aged 50, Mary is 45 and Margaret is aged 15, the address is still Wester Tartraven.  Quite a jump in ages!  I can't find either William or Mary in the Burial Registers for Linlithgow or Livingston.  There is a marriage between William Gray/Mary Carlaw of 2nd and 21st August 1818 - the first date was probably the calling of the Banns, the 2nd date the marriage.   I can't find any children born to this couple - other than the Margaret aged 15 in the 1841 census.

Sorry that I didn't find anything for you.  They may have been interred somewhere else local.   I did a search for William Gray deaths in West Lothian between 1851 and 1861, there were three - one in Abercorn in 1852, one in Bo'ness in 1857 and one in West Calder in 1858.  The Bo'ness William had the middle name of Tassie and the West Calder one had the middle name of Simpson.  I don't know if this will hep or not.  Good luck ...... Meg

[Cauther Lassie]

Hello Joanne,

I've found a link to Wester Tartraven http://guide.visitscotland.com/vs/guide/5,en,SCH1/objectId,ACC5779Svs,curr,GBP,season,at1,selectedEntry,pict/pict.html and this shows the buildings there which were part of the Silvermines in the Bathgate Hills, there are a couple of photos of the buildings, which have been converted and the postal address is now under Torphichen, not Linlithgow, so your William and Mary could have been interred in either Torphichen or Bathgate.   Cut and paste the link into your browser and hope it works.   No sign of your William in Torphichen Churchyard in the pres 1855 burial book or in the Bathgate Cemeteries pre 1855 Book.

cheers ...  Meg

[jwyrick]

Hello Meg,

thanks for the info.  I have most of what you found.  I am sure the 1841 and 1851 census are the same family, just the 1841 ages for William and for Mary ar off for some reason.  The age for Margaret is okay - I have her marriage, death, etc.  they also had a son John born 1822 (he is my direct link), and I have all his information.  I am just having a difficult time going back further.  I know his parents are this William and Mary (Carlaw) Gray.  I will try the link you listed and see if I can find more.

thanks so much for the into.

Joanne

[Cauther Lassie]

Hello Joanne,

I think that William Gray's parents were John Gray and Margaret Walker he was christened 25/5/1780 in Livingston.  I can't find a birth for Mary Carlaw though.

cheers ....  Meg

[jwyrick]

Hi Meg.

I have Mary Carlaw being bor in 1790 to John Carlaw and Margaret Walker.  I have John Carlaw and Margaret Walker married 12/1/1783.  They had children Margaret Carlawborn 1784, GeorgeCarlaw born 1786, James Carlaw born 1787, Mary Carlaw born 1790, and Euphan Carlaw born 1793.  It seems strange that William Grays parents would be the same: John Gray and Margaret Walker?  I will look for the christening that you have and see - strangers things have happened!.  I have William Gray's birth as being in Livingston about 1778, so this seems to match. 

Thanks Meg,

Joanne