HELP! in identification of person in painting

[Gadget]

And it is the same one that is shown in the Wilkie painting of Victoria that I found in the early hours 


http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,171198.msg811694.html#msg811694

Gadget

[biddybarracks]

Gadget, can you attach a bigger image of the brooch from the Wilkie painting? Thanks.

[Little Nell]

I don't think the crown is the Imperial State Crown (which incidentally was originally made for Queen Victoria because the coronation crown, St Edward's Crown, remade in the 17th century after Cromwell did away with the original crown, was too heavy for her).  I think it is more like St Edward's Crown - see the picture here:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0nw/

Queen Victoria can be seen wearing the Imperial State Crown here:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0nx/

The Coronation crown has this beaded look to the metal arches and the cross pattee and fleur de lys design.  However, it is still not quite right.

I was looking for the brooch as well - that was good thinking, Gadget.!

Nell

[biddybarracks]

Nell, thanks for the links! I am having difficulty locating these images myself to use to compare with the portrait I have. But definitely, from what I saw on the links you provided, the crown in my portrait is neither. With close examination of the closeup images I've added, the "struts" of the crown is adorned with "pearls" down the centre. The St. Edward's and the Imperial have more jewels.

[Gadget]

That crown really looks more and more like the House of Orange one! Were any of VR's mother's family married into the House of Orange around the 1840-50 period?

Gadget - on royal overload 

[AmyUK]

Sorry to contradict but i don't think that is Queen Victoria. I am of the opinion that it is Queen Isabella II of Spain, if you compare with the portrait i have added of her you will see that there are remarkable similarities with the face, pose, clothes and sash.
Might i suggest it might be good to post yor portrait at one of the other forums i go to http://www.theroyalforums.com many of the members collect photos of the royal families and might have a copy of yours in their collection, i would suggest that you post it either in the Spanish forum or in the Royal Chit Chat forum.

[AmyUK]

A portrait of a young Isabella II, the crown looks alot like yours.

[PrueM]

Beat me to it, Amy 
I just came on here to say that I thought it looked like Isabella.  Apparently she sold off the majority of the royal jewels while in exile, and now only a crown and sceptre are left.  Tiffany bought some of her jewels, and reset them - if you have a Tiffany necklace (I wish    ) you might have a bit of Spanish royal regalia!
Prue

[biddybarracks]

Amy & Prue, the crown in Isabella's portrait looks exactly like the one in the portrait I have. So, how do I find out what the medals on her sash are for? I have such difficulty finding the information I'm interested in on google! I guess I just don't know what terms to use...