Firstly thank you all so much, yes after all these years 7 i have been tryingto find out the wrong info because i have the wrong birth cert.. I do not have marriage cert but i do know my samuel married hannah dowling in east london in 1866
his initials samuel j. if this anything to go by he named his children Hannah, caroline,selina,alice,margaret,alfred,emma,john. in 1891 still plumber painter aged 47