Millership/Millichamp/Millichoppe/Millichap

[el22]

Hello to all....I know this thread started a while ago but I have recently started my family tree and have traced back to Job Millerchip and Elizabeth Haywood (who are my 6x great-grandparents). As mentioned in previous replies, I came unstuck and found the records confusing. I then came across rootschat and found your conversations, which made very interesting reading. I don't suppose any further progress has been made at all has it please?

Thank you and Regards
E.

[cire]

Hi "E"
Welcome to RootsChat. Sorry for the delay in answering your message.
I haven't done much on the Millerchips for some time now. I think I had sorted out the Millerchips in my wife's family. They are a fascinating clan, with as much social history as family history.

The Job married to Elizabeth Haywood was the son of Thomas Millichoppe and Ann Banks who were married in Broseley now part of Ironbridge in Shropshire on 9 Nov. 1741. At some stage Thomas and 2 of his brothers moved from Broseley to the Bedworth area. They were specialist miners in the Severn Valley and moved to North Warwickshire when the mines there were being developed.

The following is a bit I wrote some time ago about the early Millichoppes/ Millichaps etc. which you may find interesting.

'The Millerships originated in the hamlet of Millichoppe (appears on modern maps as Middle Hope) on the side of Clee Hill in Shropshire. They were frequent in the parishes of Clee St Margaret and Abdon. The earliest spellings are Millichoppe, Millichop and Millichap. In the 1600s a John Millichap moved to Broseley (now part of Ironbridge) and married Newall Benbow. Broseley at that time was "silicone valley" the heart of the Industrial Revolution. The Millichaps were miners in the Severn Gorge. After a couple of generations three brothers moved to Bedworth and Foleshill in Warwickshire as miners. Here the name changed over a couple of generations from Millichap to Millerchip. This was the mid 1700s. As more coal mining areas were opened up some of the Millerchips moved into the Black Country around Oldbury and to Greasley and before long up to County Durham. Just to confuse things further, some of the Millichaps in Shropshire names changed to Millichamp and some of them also went into the Black Country, so you get both Millerships and Millichamps there who were probably related a few generations earlier. When they went to Oldbury and Greasley the name changed to Millership.'-----They are even transcribed on the 1841 census as 'Milordship'!

Did your Millerchips stay in North Warwickshire or were they ones that moved to the Black Country or Nottinghamshire??

Hope you find this useful.

[el22]

Hi Cire, thankyou for your reply - it's given me information that I can follow up on. My 'Millerchamps' stayed in the Bedworth area and I still have relatives there now (I now live in Lancashire). Many thanks, E.

[emjsw]

Hello,

I hope that you don't mind me adding to this thread but I have found I too am related to the Millerchips/champs and the certainly are quite puzzling!! I found your research on what they did and where they went fascinating.

I am related to Ann Millerchip who married Samuel Lane in 1819 in Wolverhampton. The 1851 census shows her pob as Bedworth and year of birth around 1796 (also 1796 in 1861 census) which fits with Ann Millerchip baptised to Richard and Elizabeth.

I have read the Bedworth PR and think Elizabeth was née Barkb(e)y.

The only trouble is the father Richard could be Richard baptised 1753 to Thomas and Ann or 1763 to Richard and Elizabeth or 1765 to Job and Elizabeth.

Are these the brothers that you mentioned please?

William Millechamp Millencheap who married Mary and had John 1745, Sarah 1754 and William 1751 could be a 4th brother?

The possible first entry in Bedworth that I could find was John and Elizabeth that had Mary Mallowship 1737 Bedworth and then Elizabeth Millcheap Foleshill and John Millencheap 1739 Foleshill.

Job and Richard are unusual in the rest of my tree and I was excited thinking at last an unusual name will make it easier to find to find people (not in the Millerchips!!!!!).

Anyway I have really enjoyed reading this thread, it is nice to meet fellow descendents and if I find any info on Richard's parentage from the poor law docs I plan to look at, I will let you know.

Best wishes Emma

[cire]

You are very welcome. A fuller reply will follow, I'mm very tied up at present. The three brothers are the ones I mentioned. Over 20000 looks at this line. I can go back a couple of generations, to a John Millichap and Noel Benbow. And there is the story about a Millerchip and the altar cloth and the Morris men. Will be in touch soon. Eric

[emjsw]

You are very welcome. A fuller reply will follow, I'mm very tied up at present. The three brothers are the ones I mentioned. Over 20000 looks at this line. I can go back a couple of generations, to a John Millichap and Noel Benbow. And there is the story about a Millerchip and the altar cloth and the Morris men. Will be in touch soon. Eric

Dear Eric,
Thank you so much for getting in touch with me, I really appreciate it. Noel Benbow is a very unusual name, given the families county hopping it must have been really hard to piece it all together. I have really struggled due to the spelling variations. I am very intrigued by the altar cloth and Morris men!!
Hope you are having a good weekend.
Best wishes
Emma

[cire]

Hello Emma, sorry for the delay in answering. It’s over 10 years since I did a lot of work on the Millerchips. They really are interesting and difficult both from the family history but also on social history.
Looking at my old notes it does appear that I had decided there were the 4 brothers. They were 4 of the children of  William Millichope and Sarah Rogers who lived in Broseley  (Ironbridge  area)
The Richard born to Thomas & Ann  in 1753 died in 1754, but they had another Richard in 1759!!
Have you seen the webpage Genealogy.com?  There are quite a lot of Millerchip entries, Mainly of some correspondence I had 10 or 12 years ago. The entries are still there but I’m not sure whether the site is sdtill active.
Hope this helps  I  will send some more .later,

[emjsw]

Hi,
Thank you very much for getting back to me, I will look at the website you suggested, thank you.
It is really strange that so many of my family lines in Warwickshire and Staffordshire go back to Shropshire where I now have no current family so hadn't thought to look there.
I hope you don't mind me asking but I just wondered how you eliminated the Richard born to Job and the Richard born to Richard from your line and decided that Richard born to Thomas was the one who married Elizabeth Barkby please. I really want to get back further in my tree but am not sure which Richard married her and feel like I am missing something as so many trees on ancestry have Richard born to Thomas as the one marrying Elizabeth Barkby but I can't see where the other 2 Richards were excluded (one married a Francis and the other Caroline or Catherine, I can't remember which), all 3 Richards were of marriageable age at the time Elizabeth married one of them. It is driving me crazy!!!!!
Mind you if the 3 Richards were born to brothers then they will all have the same grandparents so I guess it doesn't matter too much!!!
Thanks again for keeping in touch, I really appreciate it. Have a great weekend
Best wishes Em

[cire]

Hi Em   Sorry to have been so long replying. My wife is not very well so I have had to do al the washing up and ironing!!!!!!!! Did you look at the web page I mentioned? Is Linda Griffin a close relative???

Not really made much progress on Richard. The dates of the possible Richards are baptism dates, so could be a year or two later than birth dates!!!!!