1851-61 look up please

[teddys]

hi i am trying to find the parents of john gilmore born 1851 manchester also susannah or susan williams born 1851 manchester thank you for your help mags.

[SheilaM]

Hi

This is the only one I can see born 1851 on the 1861 census.

33 Piercy? St., Ancoats, Manchester

Thomas Gilmore 38, Bricklayer
Jane 32
Thomas 12
John J 10
William 8
Richard H 6
Mary J 4
Charles 2
George 5m

In same house but enumerated as seperate family

Mary Gilmore 66, widow
Elizabeth 33, dau, Dressmaker

All born Manchester

RG9/2936 Folio 40 Page 22

Will have a look at 1851.

Sheila

[teddys]

hi shiela i no john gilmore when married to susannah williams lived 26 libby st openshaw lancashire thay had children thomas sarah e, richard, susan, and emma thanks mags.

[SheilaM]

Hi again Mags

There is another John Gilmore b1850 on the 1851 census but with different parents.  I cannot find him yet in 1861.  Will have a good check and post later as it's a little confusing and I wouldn't want to mislead you.

I've edited my first post as I missed John J Gilmore off. 

Both the births are on familysearch.org

Sheila

[teddys]

thanks shiela for helping hope to hear from you soon mags.

[SheilaM]

This is what I found in total.

1851 - Broad Lane, Cheetham HO1072232 Folio 180 Page 36

Thomas Gilmore 27, Bricklayer
Jane C 27
Thomas 2
William J 1 m
no John J

1861 - As I gave you previously



1851 - Broad Lane, Cheetham H0107/2232 Folio 179 Page 34

John Gilmore 29, Bricklayer
Sarah 30
Emily 5
Thomas 3
John 1
All born Manchester

1861 - 15 Fawcett St., Ancoats

John Gilmore 39, Master Bricklayer
Alice 30 (transcribed as Hue)
Mary 4
Joseph 2
Edward 3m
All born Manchester

In 1861 I cannot find any of the children of John/Sarah from 1851.

Notice they are both living on the same road in 1851.  I may be having a senior moment but it looks a bit strange to me.  There are numerous births/christening on Family Search.  Will have a look again later with a clear head.

Best regards ... Sheila

[teddys]

thanks shielayou are being very helpfull mags.xx

[allibaker]

dont know if this could be your girl in 1861?
living in salford lancashire-
1 EDITH STREET
sarah williams 38yrs widow mangle keeper born paris,flintshire
susannah 10yrs daughter born manchester
samuel 6yrs son born salford
john henry 2yrs son born salford
SOURCE INFO-RG9-2924
FOLIO-112
PAGE-47
regards
alli

[allibaker]

could this be a possible for sarah and children in 1861??
living in manchester in 1861-
sarah gilmour 45yrs married dressmaker born manchester
william 8yrs son
thomas 14yrs son warehouse worker
emma 17yrs daughter cotton mill
john 10yrs
all born manchester
SOURCE INFO-RG9-2946
FOLIO-71
PAGE-6
regards
alli