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Re: 1871 census Mary Crowder
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 11 July 06 11:17 BST (UK) »
Suz, I would like the other census records.

Thanks again

David
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Re: 1871 census Mary Crowder
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 11 July 06 11:44 BST (UK) »
1851 Matlock Bank
George Crowder Head 42 FWK Darley Derbys
Mary wife 41 Tansley
Mary Mother W 77 Matlock
William son 15 FWK Matlock
Elizabeth 14 Emp Cotton Mill Matlock
John 12 Emp Bleach works Matlock
Ann 10 Matlock
Sarah 8 Scholar matlock
Mary 6 Scholar Matlock
Joseph 4 Matlock#Obadiah 8mth Matlock
Martha Twigg 20 U Stepdaughter emp cotton mill Tansley
HO107/2150 220 5

1841 Matlock Bank
Mary Crowder 60
George 30 FWK
Mary 30
William 6
Elizabeth 5
Martha 10
John 3
Ann 1
Charles 20 FWK
Elizabeth 25
William 2
all b county
all surnames Crowder
Could the Martha Crowder be the Martha Twigg of 1851?
I have found a Martha Twigg b Tansley on 1841 but age 6
The children are listed in a strange order-wondered if the first 2 might be from another marriage of George, then Martha from previous marriage of Mary, next 2 children they had together, then Charles is George's brother with wife and child????? Only guessing of course

HO107/198/7 9 12

Do you want a look up of any children on other census ?

Suz
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Re: 1871 census Mary Crowder
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 11 July 06 12:11 BST (UK) »
Think this may be Martha Twigg(Crowder)'s marriage
to Samuel Gill??

FreeBMD Sept qtr 1854 Bakewell
7b 768
on same page Samuel Gill
Martha Twigg

1861 Turnsdale Tansley
Samuel Gill Head 31 labourer Hareswood (?) grange derbys
Martha Gill wife 30 (no pob given)
RG9/2542 120 1
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: 1871 census Mary Crowder
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 11 July 06 12:29 BST (UK) »
Suz, I dont have access to my notes at the moment as I am away from home. I seem to remember that Martha Twigg b Tansley was very likely the illegitimate daughter of Mary Crowder nee Twigg. I'll check it out when I get home.

Thanks again for all your assistance,

David
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Re: 1871 census Mary Crowder
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 13 July 06 16:57 BST (UK) »
Suz, the Martha Twigg in the 1851 census is 20 years old which alignes with a LDS record which has a Martha Twigg :

Birth:  28 MAR 1831   
 
Christening:  22 MAY 1831   Matlock, Derby, England

Parents:
  Mother:  MARY TWIGG

No fathers name recorded, so it is possible that my Mary Twigg had Martha before marriage. I have no means of knowing for sure.

David

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Re: 1871 census Mary Crowder
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 13 July 06 17:21 BST (UK) »
Matlock St Giles Church Baptisms
Baptism date: 22 May 1831
Christian name: MARTHA
Parents: -/Mary
Surname: Twigg
Abode: Tansley
Fathers Occupation: -
Born: 28 Mar

Looks like she was illegit-but gives d.o.b. which is a bonus

Suz
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Re: 1871 census Mary Crowder
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 13 July 06 17:34 BST (UK) »
also.....
St Giles Matlock
Marriages
31 Dec 1834
Mary Twigg, Matlock, George Crowder, Matlock

and

20 Apr 1801
William Crowder, Matlock, Mary Smith, Matlock
possibly George's parents????
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Re: 1871 census Mary Crowder
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 13 July 06 18:16 BST (UK) »
Baptisms ST Giles
28 Aug 1836 Elizabeth Crowder Parents George/Mary Matlock FWK 3d.o.b. 30 July

21 Jun 1840 Ann George/Mary Matlock Bank FWk

Will find more later-if you need them
Suz
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Re: 1871 census Mary Crowder
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 13 July 06 18:46 BST (UK) »
Thanks Suz, I believe that Mary Smith and William Crowder are the parents of George. I have the baps of most of the children of George and Mary except Mary, Obadiah, Sarah and Eliza. Can you help?

David
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