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1851 / 1841 lookup Please
« on: Wednesday 27 October 04 23:06 BST (UK) »
Would be grateful if someone would be able to look the following family up on the 1851/1841 census for me

1861 RG09/2072 ED20 Group 23813
221 Rock Street Brierley Hill Stourbridge
Williams Family
Edward, Elizabeth,Edward, Richard, James, Mary & Joseph

many thanks

(Moved from Staffordshire posting)
Dudley, Brierley Hill, Round Oak, Netherton.
Williams, Skidmore, Palmer, Ward.
Oldbury, Smethwick, West Bromwich.
Griffiths, Dyson, Hughes, Cockbill

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Re: 1851 / 1841 lookup Please
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 28 October 04 12:43 BST (UK) »
I can't find it  >:( The following family is the closest I get, I leave it to you to decide but they are not a good match.

Brierley Hill, Kingswinford, Stourbridge 
Piece 2036 fol 433

001 Brierley Hill
Elizabeth Williams,wife,m,34,Kingswinford,STS, Stone miner's wife
John Williams,son,u,18,stone miner,Kingswinford,STS
Edward WIlliams,son,10,stone miner,Kingswinford,STS
Susannah Williams,dau,12,stone picker,Kingswinford,STS
Richard Williams,son,8,Kingswinford,STS,at home
James Williams,son,5,Kingswinford,STS,at home
Mary Ann Williams,dau,2,Kingswinford,STS,at home
Job Williams,son,1m,Kingswinford,STS,at home

Rose (Black Country),Downs (Black Country),Wolloxall (any and all),Bark (Derbyshire),Wright (Derbyshire),Marsden (Derbyshire), Wallace (Black Country)

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Re: 1851 / 1841 lookup Please
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 03 November 04 00:03 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for this information - Gardner-  Its looks a good match, but like you I'm not 100% sure its the same family as the ages are slighty out.

Thanks again for looking
Williams
Dudley, Brierley Hill, Round Oak, Netherton.
Williams, Skidmore, Palmer, Ward.
Oldbury, Smethwick, West Bromwich.
Griffiths, Dyson, Hughes, Cockbill

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Re: 1851 / 1841 lookup Please
« Reply #3 on: Monday 19 September 05 10:53 BST (UK) »
could you show the complete entries for what you found in 1861 only i cant find a edward in stourbridge on the 1861 cencus?
if i can see the dates of birth maybe i can find them in 1841
regards
alli
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durham- marshall,fairbairn
worcestershire- stephens,bishop
gloucestershire - stephens
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Re: 1851 / 1841 lookup Please
« Reply #4 on: Monday 19 September 05 16:27 BST (UK) »
In 1841 There is Elizabeth Williams in Beoley Age 25
However she is with Samuel Williams Age 30
Both born in the county, no occupations

Also at same address are Helarah Craddock f, age 40 (best I can make out)
John Terry age 65 Ag Lab
Ann Terry age 70

Address is Holt End in Beoley

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Re: 1851 / 1841 lookup Please
« Reply #5 on: Monday 19 September 05 16:37 BST (UK) »
It's
 Sarah Craddock not Helarah

it was the //  that I didn't make out, it was too close to the S

Bob
Douglas, Varnden, Joy(i)ce Surrey, Clarke Northants/Hunts, Pullen Worcs/Herefords, Holmes Birmingham/USA/Canada/Australia, Jackson Cheshire/Yorkshire, Lomas Cheshire, Lee Yorkshire, Cocks Lancashire, Leah Cheshire, Cook Yorkshire, Catlow Lancashire
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Re: 1851 / 1841 lookup Please
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 29 November 05 13:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi sorry not been on the site for a while.

Thanks to you all for looking up this family

the 1861 census I found them on is RG09/2072 Folio 90 Page 42

Birth dates approximate'
Edward         Father        1803
Elizabeth       Mother       1805
James            son            1848
Joseph           son            1852
Mary              Son            1851
Richard          Son            1846
Richard is the main person I am chasing as I cannot find a birth certificate so am hoping to go back as far as possible to confirm birth place or where the family was living at the time.
There might even be more children I have not come accross yet

Thanks again for your help
Carol
Dudley, Brierley Hill, Round Oak, Netherton.
Williams, Skidmore, Palmer, Ward.
Oldbury, Smethwick, West Bromwich.
Griffiths, Dyson, Hughes, Cockbill

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Re: 1851 / 1841 lookup Please
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 29 November 05 14:05 GMT (UK) »
there is a richard williams of correct age living with grandmother in stourbridge on the 1851 cencus could he be yours? his place of birth is down as wolverhampton staffs.
regards
alli
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durham- marshall,fairbairn
worcestershire- stephens,bishop
gloucestershire - stephens
middlesex - chesney

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Re: 1851 / 1841 lookup Please
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 29 November 05 14:11 GMT (UK) »
there is a richard williams on the IG1
richard williams bapt 8th jan 1843 brierley hill stafford.parents edward and elizabeth williams.
with this in mind if he is yours then the richard on the 1851 looks a distinct possibility
regards
alli
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk.
somerset- quick,baker,stephens,atyeo,rowswell,callow,marks
durham- marshall,fairbairn
worcestershire- stephens,bishop
gloucestershire - stephens
middlesex - chesney