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finding angelina Orchard
« on: Saturday 08 July 06 16:59 BST (UK) »
 i wonder if anyone can help me find Angelina Orchard,
           she married James Holland some time before1899 i have her down on 5 birth cert as Angelina Holland formally Orchard mother and 4 baptisms,
my problem being i cant find a marriage for her and james or any trace of her  before her Children, she went by the name Lina.
             i did find a marriage for James Holland to a Caroline Orchard nov 1895 taunton somerset but i can find no trace of her before that,
            there children were Henry, Beckie,Micheal, Britannia, Thomas, Joseph,John and Edward born between 1895 and 1920
        heres hoping Louise
travellers: Penfold, Holland, Orchard, Loveridge, saunders, James, Davis<br />Somerset/devon: Hawkins, Lane, Perryman, Saffin, Bowden, Warren<br />Yorkshire/Lincolnshire: Webster, Gleadell, Gott, Patrick, Milnes, Beverley

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Re: finding angelina Orchard
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 09 July 06 14:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Louise

Have you found the family on the 1901 census ???  If so, then do please post the details ...................

Also, can you list the names, birthdates and birthplaces of the known children ............... it might give us a better idea of what to look for.

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Re: finding angelina Orchard
« Reply #2 on: Monday 10 July 06 02:44 BST (UK) »
Hi Lou , deb again
I just can't resist looking for the Penfolds/Orchards/Holland /James etc   ;D

just did a quick look for your Angelina, nice name although I have never come across it in our extended family.

I did find  a 'Lena' orchard on the 1881 census living with her mum and dad.... henry and Mary Jane  and her siblings:
Franny
Emma
Mary Jane
Anne Clementine

Lena is 1 year old and they live in dorset

RG11/2099 fol 8 p 8

I am sure you most probably have this as you have been hunting for  'angelina/ lina'.

There was also an unusual name ..."alena orchard" on the 1881 census, but she seems a bit old to be your Angelina.

later
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: finding angelina Orchard
« Reply #3 on: Monday 10 July 06 02:46 BST (UK) »
ps:
sorry forgot one other sibling of 'lena' orchard:~ James

Deb
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: finding angelina Orchard
« Reply #4 on: Monday 10 July 06 09:09 BST (UK) »
thanks Deb
                 i didnt have that one it never came up when i searched ,
Casalguidi 
                 i havent been able to find them in 1901 there children are as follows:
Henry Holland born 13/3/1899 bap 30/4/1899 Ilton somerset
Britannia Holland born 3/6/1900 bap 24/6/1900 bicknoller somerset
Thomas Holland born 21/2/1902 ashpriors somerset
Joseph Holland born 10/2/1906 williton somerset
John Holland born 22/7/1908 langford budville somerset
Edward Holland born 14/2/1914 Williton somerset
Micheal Holland born 20/10/1915 langford budville bap2/9/1917 timberscombe somerset
Beckie Holland bap 21/4/1920 timberscombe somerset
there is also a William/Bill Holland but i havnt found his birth yet for sure,
hope that helps a bit
 thanks Louise
travellers: Penfold, Holland, Orchard, Loveridge, saunders, James, Davis<br />Somerset/devon: Hawkins, Lane, Perryman, Saffin, Bowden, Warren<br />Yorkshire/Lincolnshire: Webster, Gleadell, Gott, Patrick, Milnes, Beverley

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Re: finding angelina Orchard
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 05 October 06 22:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Louise.
Could the Caroline Orchard who married James Holland in Taunton in 1895 be the daughter of James and Britannia Orchard? This Caroline was 17 in the 1891 census when the family was at Bodmin so her age would fit.
Apologies if you have found this Caroline already.


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Re: finding angelina Orchard
« Reply #6 on: Friday 06 October 06 10:35 BST (UK) »
hi there
              fathers name on marriage is thomas orchard,  not 100% sure its even right marriage just keeping all possiblitys open, her name on childrens births was Angelina, or Annie Holland nee Orchard, but the fathers name for James on marriage cert fits as Thomas Holland and there first child being born begining of 1899 seems to fit too,
               the only death i can find was for a Caroline Holland Widow of James Holland, with son Micheal as witness in barnstable area which was where she died.
          thanks
                        Louise
travellers: Penfold, Holland, Orchard, Loveridge, saunders, James, Davis<br />Somerset/devon: Hawkins, Lane, Perryman, Saffin, Bowden, Warren<br />Yorkshire/Lincolnshire: Webster, Gleadell, Gott, Patrick, Milnes, Beverley

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Re: finding angelina Orchard
« Reply #7 on: Friday 06 October 06 22:02 BST (UK) »
Hi,

The only Thomas I have found is the son of James Orchard and is married to Susan. I think he is the brother of the James who married Britannia. Thomas and Susan are at Bodmin Beacon in 1891 and at Helland Downs in 1901. James the father is a widower in both censuses so I don't know who Thomas' mother was.

Is this any help?  ???

Sue

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Re: finding angelina Orchard
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 07 October 06 15:42 BST (UK) »
hi Sue
              thanks for that what age was he? would he fit for her father?
                                  take care Louise
travellers: Penfold, Holland, Orchard, Loveridge, saunders, James, Davis<br />Somerset/devon: Hawkins, Lane, Perryman, Saffin, Bowden, Warren<br />Yorkshire/Lincolnshire: Webster, Gleadell, Gott, Patrick, Milnes, Beverley