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Gadget · « **Reply #9 on:** Sunday 16 July 06 02:50 BST (UK) »

Well the info on the death cert, identifies him as the husband of Julia Murray and his son Joseph was the informant. The info on the 1851 aso identifies him as the husband of Julia Murray and lists Joseph as one of the sons. Age details are recorded by the enumerator from the info given to him. This is also the case on the early death certs - no birth record available or required. Possibly Joseph wasn't sure of the age or maybe knew the birth year and didn't do his mental arithmetic too well. Age differences like this are common on 19th century records.

Gadget

Gadget · « **Reply #10 on:** Sunday 16 July 06 02:51 BST (UK) »

Oh sorry, 378 Springburn Road is in the Springburn District of Glasgow itself.

Gadget

yn9man · « **Reply #11 on:** Sunday 16 July 06 16:33 BST (UK) »

Gadget -

Thanks for your two recent replies. I truly appreciate your assistance. I am still "blown away" with the information that Julia MURRAY was born in North America. I spent the better part of last night "censusing" but to no avail. I do look at it as another mystery to be solved.

yn9man

Gadget · « **Reply #12 on:** Sunday 16 July 06 16:42 BST (UK) »

Yes -

I've just been looking through Ancestry and there are no early censuses up for there. I've also tried both Julia and brother John but drawn blanks

I assume that there are census records for 1820 and 1830 for Charleston and that they just haven't been transcribed. Is it possible for you to get them on film over there?

Gadget

yn9man · « **Reply #13 on:** Sunday 16 July 06 21:24 BST (UK) »

My plan is to go to the the local Family History Center (FHC) tomorrow. I'm hoping someone there will be able to assist me with South Carolina records. I did some searching on Charleston History and as far as I could find there appear to have been early 1800 census. Availability is another question.

If the FHC doesn't work out then I will find my way to the local county genealogy library and see what assistance they might be able to provide. Other than the last name of MURRAY and sibling names not much for me to go on. After Charleston I can start looking for birth information on John JARDINE in England.

Thanks again many times over ...

yn9man

Gadget · « **Reply #14 on:** Sunday 16 July 06 21:30 BST (UK) »

Ahhhhhhhhh but we have.......

If we can find one of those elusive death certs or a second marriage.

Gadget - off to search again

Gadget · « **Reply #15 on:** Sunday 16 July 06 21:39 BST (UK) »

On the 1871 she was living at Saracen Street, Maryhill, Glasgow:

Julia Jardine, wid, 53, Housekeeper, b. America, Carolina
James Jardine, son, 14, Engineer (app), b. Lanarkshire, Glasgow
Alexander Jardine, son, 10, scholar, b. Lancashire, Govan (Glasgow to you and I

)

GROS Ref - 622-01008-01052

Gadget

Gadget · « **Reply #16 on:** Sunday 16 July 06 22:37 BST (UK) »

There is no sign of any of these three in Scotland after 1871. Did they emmigrate or move to England?
I'll check the census info and ships lists.

Added - Don't understand - they're no where at all

Gadget

yn9man · « **Reply #17 on:** Monday 17 July 06 01:25 BST (UK) »

Thanks again. I really owe you. I believe she died in Scotland but I have nothing to base that information on other than "family lore". Of course that was the same source that had Julia born in Scotland when in fact she was both in Charleston, South Carolina.

I wonder, since the family was on the move (different addresses but still in areas around Glasgow in the 1841, 1851 and 1871 census) if she didn't move in with one of her children or possibly another relative. I couldn't find her or any children in the 1861 census under Jardine.

Also, I had no luck in South Carolina after 1871.

Thanks again and WE WILL solve this mystery.

yn9man

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