Where should I begin?

[yn9man]

Looking for my paternal ggg grandparents (and family information) John JARDINE and Julia MURRAY. I have been told they were born, married circa 1836 (possibly Barony, Lanark) in Scotland. I assume they also died in Scotland but I have no idea where. Their daughter Elizabeth JARDINE was born circa 1844 also in Barony.  I have searched census info but came up blank.

[Gadget]

Hi

SP has a marriage for them:

9 Dec 1836, Barony - Glasgow area.

If you go to www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

you might find their births and can check the censuses.

It's pay to view but very cheap.

Gadget

[Gadget]

Also I suggest you have a read of Pam's posting:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,24468.0.html

I'll have a quick look through the censuses for you, as a prelim.

Gadget

[Gadget]

In the 1851 they are in Maryhill, Glasgow, Barony

GROS Ref - 622-00253-00007

New House Farm

John JARDINE, 41, Poultry keeper, b. Dumfries 
Julia, 32 (?), born Charleston, North America (wow!)
with children all born Glasgow
Catherine, 13
John, 11
Elizabeth, 6
Joseph, 4
Julia, 2
John Murray, B-in-l, unm, 30, servant, Charleston, North America

Very interesting family.

I'll check for deaths - it will give their parents' names.

Gadget 

[Gadget]

John (married to Julia Murray) died Nov 5 1869 at 378 Springburn Road, aged 49. His parents were John Jardine, cloth merchant, deceased and Catherine nee Rae,deceased.

John had changed from poultry keeping to Coach builder by the time of his death.

Gadget

I can't find a death for Julia or a second marriage. Maybe she move away. It might be worth your while chasing up her brother, John Murray.

[GordonD]

While Gadget was busy searching on the census I was typing a message saying that often find it more useful to look for a female death (as can search on both maiden and married names). Can narrow down where they were living later in life and if the husband died first.  But there found no matches for a Julia Murray/Jardine in the deaths. Given the info that Gadget has found about the family this probably means that she didn't stay around in Scotland after her husband's death.

Gordon

[yn9man]

Gadget -

THANK YOU SO MUCH !!! for your replies to my query. Unbelievable that Julia MURRAY was from Charleston, North America. Now I just need to find which Charleston?. I had  been told all my Dads family was Scottish. Guess thats another a story for another day. Oh well one mystery solved and now a new one to resolve.

yn9man

[yn9man]

Quick update. I just located John Jardine and Julia in the 1841 census in Glasgow. 2 children Catherine and John. Also on the census is a Mary Murray (born outside census county) possibly the mother of Julia??. Thanks to Gadget and Gordon for their assistance.

yn9man

[yn9man]

Gadget -

I meant to ask you where (i.e. town, city, village, etc.) 378 Springburn is located. I was going to assume Maryhill. Barony, Scotland but that information was from the 1851 census and 18 year time difference from date of death.  How did you know he had changed occupations from poultry keeper to coach builder?. Was it in the death information? I also noticed his age at death in 1869 (49 years) doesn't reconcile to the 1851 census data (when his age was listed as 41). Or am I again missing something

I got so excited after seeing your posting I forgot my mind. And again, thanks ever so much for your information. Still working on trying to find which Charleston, North America my ggg grandmother was from.

An interesting family as you so stated ...

yn9man