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Re: Rent a grave !
« Reply #36 on: Friday 14 July 06 19:16 BST (UK) »
I don't think it is EVER right to remove bodies! It does not seem right to me, Graves are usually desecrated for the sake of a block of flats or a few ugly houses, sorry but i don't see how that is justified! Its been said a million times before but sadly it all boils down to money! Have the people who are behind this Manor Park business really made an effort to find living descendent's? Should they? I think so, if the nearest living relatives of these people don't mind what they are planning on doing then so be it, i still wholeheartedly disagree with the erasing of the names of the original occupants of the graves! I see on the website they have a list of who is buried there but alas it isn't indexed, i do realize this would cost a fair bit of money to do but surely it is a good idea?? After all they are the largest municipal cemetery in Europe. Most of my ancestors on my fathers side and on my daughters fathers side came from various parts of London and am pretty sure there are a few of them lingering there.... i can't check though can i, i don't have the time or financial resources to do so.... and if indeed there are some in there i would be livid if they did this to them!  >:(              Penninah
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« Reply #37 on: Friday 14 July 06 19:30 BST (UK) »
I don't think it is EVER right to remove bodies! It does not seem right to me, Graves are usually desecrated for the sake of a block of flats or a few ugly houses, sorry but i don't see how that is justified!

  But this is not being done for rebuilding, they are still graves.

Its been said a million times before but sadly it all boils down to money! Have the people who are behind this Manor Park business really made an effort to find living descendent's?
 Well they'e doing what we are doing in reverse, is it easy?

 Should they? I think so, if the nearest living relatives of these people don't mind what they are planning on doing then so be it, i still wholeheartedly disagree with the erasing of the names of the original occupants of the graves!

I think they should record them.

I see on the website they have a list of who is buried there but alas it isn't indexed, i do realize this would cost a fair bit of money to do but surely it is a good idea??

That depends, who pays? would the locals be happy to have it added to thier council tax? Money spent on the living in need  is more important in my opinion.

 After all they are the largest municipal cemetery in Europe. Most of my ancestors on my fathers side and on my daughters fathers side came from various parts of London and am pretty sure there are a few of them lingering there.... i can't check though can i, i don't have the time or financial resources to do so....

As I said, it might be difficult for future bereaved if they had to go a long way to a new cemetery.

My Parents, Grand Parents and several aunts and uncles are there to my knowledge. Some in the crematorium, It's an expensive job keeping them going.


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« Reply #38 on: Friday 14 July 06 19:50 BST (UK) »
Wow, what a heated topic. I am not sure where I stand on this, but selling the markers is horrendous. I think the idea of a virtual cemetery is wonderful. It appears at this time I don't have any relatives buried in London (you never know what I might find) but I would be more than happy to send a letter or sign a petition. A solution here could help cemeteries, families, historians, etc. for years to come.

On a similar note: In finding my gg grandparents grave in a small Catholic cemetery in New Jersey, I was told I could be buried in the plot. Apparently, it is a family plot forever and after a certain amount of time (I think he said 60 years) the grave is open for family members.

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« Reply #39 on: Friday 14 July 06 20:11 BST (UK) »
A 'virtual' cemetery already exisits at C of L. If you have a relative in the crematorium, you can have an entry similar to what you might have on a gravestone in a book of rememberance. At present you have to pay for this and the book is displayed on whatever anniversary you choose. I have used this facilitiy for family members who also have memorials in the gardens of rememberance. I live a long way from there now so I don't get there more than certain anniversaries. I think you can also view it at other times now, they were talking about scanning and computerising them some time ago. Maybe they could put the inscriptions from the graves on there as a compromise.

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« Reply #40 on: Monday 18 September 06 22:30 BST (UK) »
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« Reply #41 on: Tuesday 19 September 06 14:37 BST (UK) »
One of my uncles died aged 4 from Diphtheria in 1931.  He was buried in one of the London cemetries in the children's section.  My grandmother visited regularly, especially on his birthday, death date and Christmas.  My sister went with her on one occasion, in the early 1970s, and they found the whole children's section had been covered with about 4 foot of earth and that new burials were already in place.  All headstones had been removed and disposed of. 

My sister said that our grandmother almost fainted when she saw what had happened.  It was as if her son - who would always be a little boy to her - had never existed.  So upsetting and so uncaring!

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« Reply #42 on: Tuesday 19 September 06 15:03 BST (UK) »
Thats disgusting Monica that these people care so little!!  >:(  :'(
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