Well, fell over this site by total accident and judging by ppl's comments we must be related with all the Josiah +Job's etc my G/father was born in Staffordshire and my Dad and his 2 brothers in Lancashire all i know personally but my elder sister knows more than me if i can get some info i will. If the b and w photo used on a couple of the posts is a Timmins then we may be even closer related than first thought i've seen a pic of a very similar looking lady several times in my life don't know who she was tho . Mail me or leave a msg , Cheers Brian Timmins