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Birth Look up please - London
« on: Monday 03 July 06 03:16 BST (UK) »
Trying to locate the parents of Esther Waller born London abt 1806 died 1882 Bethnal Green, married name Bachellier, any help appreciated as I haven't been able to go past this lady, my 3 x great grandmother

Thanks
Annie
Bachellier - Bethnal Green and France
Gaucheron - France
Saumon- France
Godran - France
Rossignol - France
Heggie - Fife Scotland
Forsyth - Glasgow Scotland
MCLennan - Glasgow Scotland
Melville - Lanarkshire?
Wright - Lincolnshire
Dalton - Licolnshire
Hutton Lanarkshire
Winch - Kent UK
Northwood - Shropshire/Montgomeryshire Wales

ITS NOT CHARLES  - ITS GEORGE CHARLES VELINDER FAWCETT!!
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Re: Birth Look up please - London
« Reply #1 on: Monday 03 July 06 09:36 BST (UK) »
Fisrstly, try tracking her back though census, gathering surnames of visitors/lodgers.
Post all on here so that we can suggest best locations to concentrate the search.

Pauline

I can see a Samuel 38y,and Ann 41 in 1871 at RG10/ 497/Fol18.

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Re: Birth Look up please - London
« Reply #2 on: Monday 03 July 06 10:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Pauline

Thanks
yes I have them on the 1861/1871 census but can't seem to locate them on the 1841 I think the surname has been mistranscribed. Esthers birthplace is noted as Bethnal Green not London as I quoted sorry !  :-[

Details I have is that Esther married samuel Bachellier 5 Feb 1832 Newgate , Christ Church Greyfriars children are James and samuel abt 1835, Ann abt 1840, Thomas Edward ( or Edward Thomas )abt 1842 and Elizabeth abt 1844 all born Bethnal Green.
Esther died Dec qtr 1882 Bethnal Green, Samuel died about 1846 Bethnal Green.

Bachellier - Bethnal Green and France
Gaucheron - France
Saumon- France
Godran - France
Rossignol - France
Heggie - Fife Scotland
Forsyth - Glasgow Scotland
MCLennan - Glasgow Scotland
Melville - Lanarkshire?
Wright - Lincolnshire
Dalton - Licolnshire
Hutton Lanarkshire
Winch - Kent UK
Northwood - Shropshire/Montgomeryshire Wales

ITS NOT CHARLES  - ITS GEORGE CHARLES VELINDER FAWCETT!!
Currently renovating
Census information is Crown Copyright from National Archives,gov.uk

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Re: Birth Look up please - London
« Reply #3 on: Monday 03 July 06 16:56 BST (UK) »

Please put on the census details that you have already, as requested.
It may also be worthwhile looking at the GRO indexes to fix a year, qtr and region of london for the kids births, (for tracking purposes)

Pauline
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Re: Birth Look up please - London
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 06 July 06 01:01 BST (UK) »
1861 census

Esther Bachellier  54  Bethnal Green   Head

RG9/259 Folio 60  Page 39 Bethnal Green, Church
Bachellier - Bethnal Green and France
Gaucheron - France
Saumon- France
Godran - France
Rossignol - France
Heggie - Fife Scotland
Forsyth - Glasgow Scotland
MCLennan - Glasgow Scotland
Melville - Lanarkshire?
Wright - Lincolnshire
Dalton - Licolnshire
Hutton Lanarkshire
Winch - Kent UK
Northwood - Shropshire/Montgomeryshire Wales

ITS NOT CHARLES  - ITS GEORGE CHARLES VELINDER FAWCETT!!
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Re: Birth Look up please - London
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 06 July 06 07:51 BST (UK) »

Okay,
was she alone in the 1861?,
what was the street address, etc?

Pauline
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Re: Birth Look up please - London
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 06 July 06 13:38 BST (UK) »
In 1861 census Esther bachellier was living with her children
James,Edward & Elizabeth.
I can't quite make out the street name it looks like Tyfzen ? number 17 .
edward is a cabinet maker the others silk winders and dyer. The Bachelliers originally came from France - Huguenots.

Can I email you the image? Can't upload a pic here of it,
Bachellier - Bethnal Green and France
Gaucheron - France
Saumon- France
Godran - France
Rossignol - France
Heggie - Fife Scotland
Forsyth - Glasgow Scotland
MCLennan - Glasgow Scotland
Melville - Lanarkshire?
Wright - Lincolnshire
Dalton - Licolnshire
Hutton Lanarkshire
Winch - Kent UK
Northwood - Shropshire/Montgomeryshire Wales

ITS NOT CHARLES  - ITS GEORGE CHARLES VELINDER FAWCETT!!
Currently renovating
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Re: Birth Look up please - London
« Reply #7 on: Friday 07 July 06 13:29 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Could this be the family in 1851,

HO107/1542  f.98  p.8  Bethnal Green

2 Woods Close

Esther BATCHELAR  Head  Wid   45  Silk Weaveress 
Saml                      Son  U      18  Silk Dyer
James                    Son  U      16  Errand Boy
Sarah                   Daur          13  Machine Winder
Ann                      Daur          10  Scholar
Edwd Thos              Son            8     "  "
Elizabeth               Daur            7     "  "

All born Middlesex Bethnal Green.
They seem to be living in the same house as an Edward PICKERSGILL and family.

Regards
Daisy
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Re: Birth Look up please - London
« Reply #8 on: Friday 07 July 06 14:09 BST (UK) »
Hi again,

There is this family in 1841 transcribed as BERLIER but could be BACLIER/BACHIER  :-\

HO107/694/3  f.27  p.16  Bethnal Green

Sam    BA ???    35  Weaver
Ester              35
Ester              13
Samuel             8
James               6
Sarah               4
Ann                  1

All born in County.

I this is the right family then Ester jnr would have been born before the marriage of Samuel & Esther, I wonder if she was illegitimate or if Esther snr was married to a Mr WALLER and it is her second marriage to Samuel.

Do you have any of the childrens birth certs ? 
In my tree I was lucky and birth certs for two eldest children in a family showed the mother was widowed previously eg; Mary SMITH, late JONES, formerly BROWN although later childrens certs only showed the maiden name.

Daisy
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